Evo x MR sst Fp red + goodies at Iveytune
Ok I guess I won't share either then. 
FYI, you can tell when the SST torque table is kicking in when the RPM has slight jumps and dips (like a slight slipping clutch), that is why I asked to see the RPM log, and when the tables really kick in, the throttle plate starts closing down, which is why I was asking to see the throttle logs. That's all I need to see.

FYI, you can tell when the SST torque table is kicking in when the RPM has slight jumps and dips (like a slight slipping clutch), that is why I asked to see the RPM log, and when the tables really kick in, the throttle plate starts closing down, which is why I was asking to see the throttle logs. That's all I need to see.
All this stuff makes total sense, and I would love to see a solution.
Last edited by boostsaves; Jul 31, 2009 at 05:53 PM.
Well, I also have a MR, and you've convinced me.... I ordered a ported fp red, 800 dw injectors from AMS today. It's going in this Wednesday, and tuned.
I will make sure that I show my tuner this thread, and will give out those logs if i can. I'll have the boost pill, and maybe AMS fuel rail?? No cams, or fuel pump though.
current engine mods:
AMS fmic, uicp, licp, intake, test pipe, cat-back.
Pro tune, with Cobb on dynojet dyno, I made 297 whp and 295 tq @ 23 psi
Ill post up the numbers in a new thread when it's done.
I will make sure that I show my tuner this thread, and will give out those logs if i can. I'll have the boost pill, and maybe AMS fuel rail?? No cams, or fuel pump though.
current engine mods:
AMS fmic, uicp, licp, intake, test pipe, cat-back.
Pro tune, with Cobb on dynojet dyno, I made 297 whp and 295 tq @ 23 psi
Ill post up the numbers in a new thread when it's done.
Last edited by jsr426; Jul 31, 2009 at 07:05 PM.
Well, I also have a MR, and you've convinced me.... I ordered a ported fp red, 800 dw injectors from AMS today. It's going in this Wednesday, and tuned.
I will make sure that I show my tuner this thread, and will give out those logs if i can. I'll have the boost pill, and maybe AMS fuel rail?? No cams, or fuel pump though.
current engine mods:
AMS fmic, uicp, licp, intake, test pipe, cat-back.
Pro tune, with Cobb on dynojet dyno, I made 297 whp and 295 tq @ 23 psi
Ill post up the numbers in a new thread when it's done.
I will make sure that I show my tuner this thread, and will give out those logs if i can. I'll have the boost pill, and maybe AMS fuel rail?? No cams, or fuel pump though.
current engine mods:
AMS fmic, uicp, licp, intake, test pipe, cat-back.
Pro tune, with Cobb on dynojet dyno, I made 297 whp and 295 tq @ 23 psi
Ill post up the numbers in a new thread when it's done.
Goodluck!
^^ just wondering why?? I've heard that you don't need the fuel rail or pump? it just helps smooth out the flow. what do you think?
The other thing is I wasn't planning on doing any turbo upgrade at all. Just found out today my turbo is beat. Debrise damage on the compressor side.
The other thing is I wasn't planning on doing any turbo upgrade at all. Just found out today my turbo is beat. Debrise damage on the compressor side.
^^ just wondering why?? I've heard that you don't need the fuel rail or pump? it just helps smooth out the flow. what do you think?
The other thing is I wasn't planning on doing any turbo upgrade at all. Just found out today my turbo is beat. Debrise damage on the compressor side.
The other thing is I wasn't planning on doing any turbo upgrade at all. Just found out today my turbo is beat. Debrise damage on the compressor side.
that sucks about your stock snail, the red is a great upgrade.
I would look into transmission cooling if you have not already. Running the red with boltons will heat her up.
Ok, ok....I'll get the pump instead of the rail. And i've been drooling over the new AMS trans cooler all day. I was saving up to get the ams downpipe, trans cooler, and to trailer it up to chicago to get protuned. Now....not so much. I'm just glad they had the ported fp in stock. I got the last one on the shelf.
How many miles on your car?
How many miles on your car?
Ok, ok....I'll get the pump instead of the rail. And i've been drooling over the new AMS trans cooler all day. I was saving up to get the ams downpipe, trans cooler, and to trailer it up to chicago to get protuned. Now....not so much. I'm just glad they had the ported fp in stock. I got the last one on the shelf.
How many miles on your car?
How many miles on your car?
Catching a red in stock is rare. Consider yourself lucky, cause i had to wait a month for mine to come in.
around 15.5k
Voodoo's car should be done soon, so we will see what kind of data his car gives. That should put alot of those unknowns to rest.
i need gunzo to chime in here soon. Where the hell has he been
Its a larger core def. and holds more fluid ...here's the specs
The AMS EVO X MR/Ralliart SST Transmission oil cooler kit is the first of its kind for the SST transmission.The AMS Trans. cooler helps to prevent that by using a high quality larger capacity heat exchanger with a fan that pulls air through the core the entire time the car is running. This helps to keep transmission temperatures in check and keep that pesky “slow down” light on the dash from coming on so often.
Features
Full time fan to constantly pull in air through the cooler
Directly replaces the OEM cooler, no cutting or modifying OEM plastics or body panels
High quality oil cooler that adds an extra ½ quart of fluid capacity
Large frontal area of core allows for even better cooling
Kit Includes
One of the best oil coolers on the market
Electric fan that easily wires into the factory fuse box
Stainless steel brackets for long life and a seamless install
All necessary hardware and wiring to install in the OEM location and to OEM lines
Specifications
Oil cooler capable of holding .5 additional quarts
High quality 8” fan with stainless steel shroud
100% Stainless steel brackets
Aeroquip push-lock fitting for OEM hose integration
The AMS EVO X MR/Ralliart SST Transmission oil cooler kit is the first of its kind for the SST transmission.The AMS Trans. cooler helps to prevent that by using a high quality larger capacity heat exchanger with a fan that pulls air through the core the entire time the car is running. This helps to keep transmission temperatures in check and keep that pesky “slow down” light on the dash from coming on so often.
Features
Full time fan to constantly pull in air through the cooler
Directly replaces the OEM cooler, no cutting or modifying OEM plastics or body panels
High quality oil cooler that adds an extra ½ quart of fluid capacity
Large frontal area of core allows for even better cooling
Kit Includes
One of the best oil coolers on the market
Electric fan that easily wires into the factory fuse box
Stainless steel brackets for long life and a seamless install
All necessary hardware and wiring to install in the OEM location and to OEM lines
Specifications
Oil cooler capable of holding .5 additional quarts
High quality 8” fan with stainless steel shroud
100% Stainless steel brackets
Aeroquip push-lock fitting for OEM hose integration
Its a larger core def. and holds more fluid ...here's the specs
The AMS EVO X MR/Ralliart SST Transmission oil cooler kit is the first of its kind for the SST transmission.The AMS Trans. cooler helps to prevent that by using a high quality larger capacity heat exchanger with a fan that pulls air through the core the entire time the car is running. This helps to keep transmission temperatures in check and keep that pesky “slow down” light on the dash from coming on so often.
Features
Full time fan to constantly pull in air through the cooler
Directly replaces the OEM cooler, no cutting or modifying OEM plastics or body panels
High quality oil cooler that adds an extra ½ quart of fluid capacity
Large frontal area of core allows for even better cooling
Kit Includes
One of the best oil coolers on the market
Electric fan that easily wires into the factory fuse box
Stainless steel brackets for long life and a seamless install
All necessary hardware and wiring to install in the OEM location and to OEM lines
Specifications
Oil cooler capable of holding .5 additional quarts
High quality 8” fan with stainless steel shroud
100% Stainless steel brackets
Aeroquip push-lock fitting for OEM hose integration
The AMS EVO X MR/Ralliart SST Transmission oil cooler kit is the first of its kind for the SST transmission.The AMS Trans. cooler helps to prevent that by using a high quality larger capacity heat exchanger with a fan that pulls air through the core the entire time the car is running. This helps to keep transmission temperatures in check and keep that pesky “slow down” light on the dash from coming on so often.
Features
Full time fan to constantly pull in air through the cooler
Directly replaces the OEM cooler, no cutting or modifying OEM plastics or body panels
High quality oil cooler that adds an extra ½ quart of fluid capacity
Large frontal area of core allows for even better cooling
Kit Includes
One of the best oil coolers on the market
Electric fan that easily wires into the factory fuse box
Stainless steel brackets for long life and a seamless install
All necessary hardware and wiring to install in the OEM location and to OEM lines
Specifications
Oil cooler capable of holding .5 additional quarts
High quality 8” fan with stainless steel shroud
100% Stainless steel brackets
Aeroquip push-lock fitting for OEM hose integration
All this is great and all, but hard Tempature numbers are needed. Didint they test this on a ralliart? I wonder if they had the fpred on it during testing?
A Mr will overheat the tranny far faster then a ralliart will.
I'm not saying it does not work, i would just like to see how effective it is.
The setrab core they use is of good quality, that is what i run now, but a far larger one.
Last edited by boostsaves; Jul 31, 2009 at 07:45 PM.
I'll ask em on monday.
I thought i heard it dropped the temps 50 degrees on a x. don't think it had a red on it though. Id be real surprised if they don't have some base numbers on how well it works. It's gotta be better than stock. Larger core, more fluid, and the fan stays running. Only time will tell.
I thought i heard it dropped the temps 50 degrees on a x. don't think it had a red on it though. Id be real surprised if they don't have some base numbers on how well it works. It's gotta be better than stock. Larger core, more fluid, and the fan stays running. Only time will tell.
I have so many track events booked for the rest of the season and I keep getting the slow down warning with 330 hp and I think it was 316 tourque. I am torn between the now available ams for 500 or biting the bullet and going with ssp with clutch packs for much more money knowing that I will wish I had just went with the bigger option after future upgrades. I guess I can still go with ams and add ssp later since they will work together right? Does the ssp cooler still use the original cooler? I forget
I have so many track events booked for the rest of the season and I keep getting the slow down warning with 330 hp and I think it was 316 tourque. I am torn between the now available ams for 500 or biting the bullet and going with ssp with clutch packs for much more money knowing that I will wish I had just went with the bigger option after future upgrades. I guess I can still go with ams and add ssp later since they will work together right? Does the ssp cooler still use the original cooler? I forget
The ssp cooler is an on demand cooler. It still uses your stock cooler as well. What I like about the ssp offering is that you get an additional 4 quarts of fluid in the system. That is huge when cooling something as hot as the sst.
For the sake of the transmission I would atleast get some sort of cooling to that cooler. It's tough to say how effective the stock location is. It is very hard to move air through that spot. At the very least get a spal fan hooked onto your stock cooler.
*edit* I see you made 330 315. That was at ivey right? What mods did you have. I had the boltons and got 347 314 so those are close.
Last edited by boostsaves; Jul 31, 2009 at 08:42 PM.
I am running the full ams dual turbo back, ams intercooler, ams top pipe, ams intake, and access port. Between my to options I am ordering one of them this week. The only reason I'm debating the two is I just bought a new set of advan rs-ds and plan on ordering robispec clubsports this week so I'm a little tight on cash and trying to get the most out of this track season. I figured at the least I can hold off on the ssp upgrades till the spring by just getting the ams cooler. Then in the spring install a new ssp set up and still use the ams cooler in place of the stock cooler. Plus the ams intercooler will be much easier to install quickly in the next two weeks.
I am running the full ams dual turbo back, ams intercooler, ams top pipe, ams intake, and access port. Between my to options I am ordering one of them this week. The only reason I'm debating the two is I just bought a new set of advan rs-ds and plan on ordering robispec clubsports this week so I'm a little tight on cash and trying to get the most out of this track season. I figured at the least I can hold off on the ssp upgrades till the spring by just getting the ams cooler. Then in the spring install a new ssp set up and still use the ams cooler in place of the stock cooler. Plus the ams intercooler will be much easier to install quickly in the next two weeks.
Ive been getting a few pm's about my numbers, and its been said that turning off asc on the mr before you dyno nets you more power vs leaving asc on? i dont know how it would do that, but a trustworthy source told me he measured about a 7-10% diff with it off vs on. When i was describing the problem to him he was shocked that i didin't know about this.
If this was the case which im sure we would have to prove right or wrong, this would put me in line closer to the gsr's.
Last edited by boostsaves; Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM.


