Low 3582HTA Numbers :(
Rogue you have no idea what your talking about....you people keep saying crower's for the 8's and 9's! The cams for the x are a whole new design!
I have the cams they work awesome! I also seen two cars make more power than anyone on the forums on pump gas with red turbos.
You my friend need a new tuner and a real dyno and you will be fine! no reason you should make less power by adding meth and cams. Look at the specs between the cosworths and the crowers then you all could decide
I have the cams they work awesome! I also seen two cars make more power than anyone on the forums on pump gas with red turbos.
You my friend need a new tuner and a real dyno and you will be fine! no reason you should make less power by adding meth and cams. Look at the specs between the cosworths and the crowers then you all could decide
Specs mean **** when Brian Crowers company cant grind a cam straight.The biggest thing to consider on the X's is that the cam install sucks. So in reality it will be cheaper to put in the right cams by buying some good ones for a few hundred extra bucks. The rates for install are damn near the cost of cams. So rather than doing the install twice, i would spend 2 hundred more on cams and get the best proven ones first.
With that said, the X's still don't have nearly as much cam test data as the 8/9's so it is still up in there air.
With that said, the X's still don't have nearly as much cam test data as the 8/9's so it is still up in there air.
BC cams suck in the dsm. BC cams suck in the 8/9's.
..... Do you really think BC magically got better for the X's?
i guess my 3rd point was more of a subjective point. however, the first 2 are facts my friends. lets pretend that his torque is constant towards the top at 350wtq(resonable amount) by only reving to 6800 his whp number would be 453, by reving to 7800rpms his numbers would be 520! thats 67 hp difference. decent afr and mbt tuning in the power band and bam! more hp under the curve.
that's an infraction waiting to happen. although i agree with you that BC cams sucked previously, i would still like for a well established and knowledgable company, or tuner like ivey, to get his hands on a car with BC cams and see what they say. matter fact, I would love to get my hands on a car with BC cams and tune it for myself, maybe not my own car just yet.... but still.
that's an infraction waiting to happen. although i agree with you that BC cams sucked previously, i would still like for a well established and knowledgable company, or tuner like ivey, to get his hands on a car with BC cams and see what they say. matter fact, I would love to get my hands on a car with BC cams and tune it for myself, maybe not my own car just yet.... but still.
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They might have gotten slightly better in the X but still i would never use them.
I am still saying you get what you pay for and people need to not cheap out on internal engine stuff like cams and drop ins.
that's an infraction waiting to happen. although i agree with you that BC cams sucked previously, i would still like for a well established and knowledgable company, or tuner like ivey, to get his hands on a car with BC cams and see what they say. matter fact, I would love to get my hands on a car with BC cams and tune it for myself, maybe not my own car just yet.... but still.
Likely you will never see anyone test BC cams because - well their junk. Nothing has changed - why would Ivey, or AMS, or STM, or AWD or anyone test cams that have NEVER been good...
Why doesnt BR do another Ebay intercooler vs the world test -- its been some time.. maybe those ebay intercoolers are kickin *** and takin names now..
I think you misunderstood my thoughts...i by no means am defending BC stuff. I would never ever put it in my car, even in the trunk.
They might have gotten slightly better in the X but still i would never use them.
I am still saying you get what you pay for and people need to not cheap out on internal engine stuff like cams and drop ins.
They might have gotten slightly better in the X but still i would never use them.
I am still saying you get what you pay for and people need to not cheap out on internal engine stuff like cams and drop ins.
... in the trunk... lol
+1 for you!
Sean
Everybody has a keyboard these days. Without calling it how it is - people just assume anything read on the internet is gospel.
Likely you will never see anyone test BC cams because - well their junk. Nothing has changed - why would Ivey, or AMS, or STM, or AWD or anyone test cams that have NEVER been good...
Why doesnt BR do another Ebay intercooler vs the world test -- its been some time.. maybe those ebay intercoolers are kickin *** and takin names now..
Likely you will never see anyone test BC cams because - well their junk. Nothing has changed - why would Ivey, or AMS, or STM, or AWD or anyone test cams that have NEVER been good...
Why doesnt BR do another Ebay intercooler vs the world test -- its been some time.. maybe those ebay intercoolers are kickin *** and takin names now..
And i totally agree with your everyone has a keyboard these days. I just got done with a long argument with one of the moderators on this forum about a subject and its sometimes sad to see that just because people have high post counts or a moderator, people think they're god's gift to cars.
regardless, Ivey what do you think about BC cams?
Fact of the matter is, with the spool looking as bad as it does on an HTA3282, and BC cams, I agree that the cams are off. Either install, or more likely, just ground wrong. Get some good cams, springs, take it to Ivy, and let him fix it for ya. Then you'll have real before/after comparison too, without wondering about different dynos.
I don't know anything about Akumas in relation to here, nor am i rendering any opinion on what is going on with this car.
What I am saying is that on a dynojet, a stock GTR r35 makes around 420-430...........
NYC93 your #s are way off base. And since the original dynojet sheet he shows is from here, I would ASSume he was using our dyno as part of his comparison.
Sean
What I am saying is that on a dynojet, a stock GTR r35 makes around 420-430...........
NYC93 your #s are way off base. And since the original dynojet sheet he shows is from here, I would ASSume he was using our dyno as part of his comparison.
Sean
i see what you're saying. however i think it would be important to still test them out, because unlike ebay ****, they at least have some sort of name to them. What i'm really interested in is for Crower Inc to release some cams for 4b11. most people have no idea the Bryan Crower Inc (his son) is a branch of from the original Crower company, which i hear has a decent reputation. so in the end, i'm really just interested in Crower Inc NOT BC cams.
And i totally agree with your everyone has a keyboard these days. I just got done with a long argument with one of the moderators on this forum about a subject and its sometimes sad to see that just because people have high post counts or a moderator, people think they're god's gift to cars.
regardless, Ivey what do you think about BC cams?
And i totally agree with your everyone has a keyboard these days. I just got done with a long argument with one of the moderators on this forum about a subject and its sometimes sad to see that just because people have high post counts or a moderator, people think they're god's gift to cars.
regardless, Ivey what do you think about BC cams?
