Very nice, I know it has to be one hell of a fun car!

What was the MAF voltages?

I'm curious because I am torn on which intake to go with and AMS is on my list and I noticed this car has an AMS intake....

 

I ran the AMS intake to just over 500whp...it won't go much past that though as the MAF will max.

I also know newtons laws, us engineers have no choice.

 

I've been eyeballing the AMS and the Primo as final possible choices but a turbo upgrade is probably a bit off for me and I cant make my mind up yet. The Primo seems to be overkill and doesn't come with the filter shield. I think I seen a picture of your car utilizing the AMS shield on here somewhere so I take it that it fits without issue? It's possible i could source that by itself if I did go the Primo route but I don't know if really need that much intake girth

I am eventually wanting right about 500hp to help with my power addiction as I plan to sell my 700+ HP Evo 8 soon...

 

The Primo intake was actually designed off my 3" AMS intake. Primo is local.

AMS didn't want to make a 3.5" intake for me so I took my AMS to primo and bam the primo intake. I kept the shield of course

Seems to work fine for me.

The primo might be overkill but then you don't have to rebuy ****. If you want 500hp get a black, assuming you mean stock frame. Otherwise get a pte5857 kit

 

Another easy solution is to run a omni 4 bar map sensor with a 3" intake.

 

That only allows you to run more boost. If you are making enough power it won't matter, you still need a MAF signal that doesn't max out.

 

Nope... once the maf maxes out, the map is utilized for load calculation.... how do you think I was able to control everything with a stock maf housing?

 

I know you can continue to tune with just a MAP sensor because our cars use both, but that still isn't the correct way to do it. My tuner said he could tune with a saturated map signal or MAF but still its not the "ideal" way.

Edit: I also was pretty sure the ECU uses the lower of the two for calculations. Or maybe its vice versa.

 

There isn't a right way or a wrong way... the load calculation just has different options available. It is just like running SD at that point... almost the best of both worlds

 

Any chance we can see some logs from the dyno pull? I would be curious to see the MAF V and the timing curve(and subsequently Load). I am asking because the RED easily maxxed out a 3" intake at 390HP on our dyno(Mustang). I see a few of the very high HP dyno plots and never see the data. I think it would be very cool to review the data.

I am really looking to see how low our dyno reads, as it is a handicap when it comes to marketing. No matter how much you tell the customer the delta change from baseline is what counts, or Mustang dynos read lower... it never fully sinks in...lol If tuners(like myself) post some data with our dyno plots, it may be really helpful for the community to compare(more so) apples to apples, regardless of dyno.

Just a thought. Hop the car is still going strong. Thanks guys.


Cheers,
-John

 

Here is 500whp on my primo 3.5" on my local DD dyno. I posted the dynograph after.





Ps. here is it on a dynojet, first run was my DD tune.

 

nice setup. i envy your torque curve

 

Is there anyway to tune around the maf/voltage issue or just aftermarket maf?

 

Thanks Murlo. Any chance you have the 7600 to redline? I appreciate your post, as no one really does this. In fact I am going to start including it on our posts as well. Again, the data does not lie, and(for the most part) is independent of what the plot shows. Nice work.

What fuel were you running? Is the Omni data rescaled for Evoscan...were you really running 36 -37PSI?

Regards.

John

 

PM me if you want more, I was a little drunk last night so I posted but its getting too off topic and don't want to clog up spec ops' thread.

But before PM, it was E85 (E70) and yes I was running that much boost.