Contracts Ryan. We are out tuning on mine tonight. Give me a call as I have your map sensor at the house.

 

Do you think you could put an honest weight in there? I dont think you were pulling a jetski or hauling a 800 lb tiger to the zoo.

 

...but then his virtual horsepower number will be smaller!

 

Two people were in the car I believe, him and Mr. Fred.

I have found that the more stuff you put in the car though and try to account for via weight the more skewed it seems. But I guess this doesn't look too crazy imo.

 

Evo 10 = 3517 lbs in VD, and Ryan has a few of the luxury options that add a bit of weight, so we have it set at 3560 lbs.
3dman1 = 6'3" and 300 lbs. There is a reason that he bought an Evo 10 and not an Evo 9.
mrfred = 180 lbs.

In case anyone is curious, there was no wind, and the road was very slightly uphill. The power is all about the cool, dry air.

 

Thanks. I mentioned it to tephra about a month ago (along with several other items), and he passed it onto the Evo 10 team at that time. I also made the request about seven months ago via Tim.

 

Virtual Dyno needs to adjust the weight even further. I have an MR Touring It weighs 3656 ( calibrated scales ) with a full tank of gas, all fluids maxed including washer fluid with the spare tire and jack etc etc. The MR T weighs about 250 lbs more than a GSR. So if you had two 300 lb fat guys you would barrely be at 4000 lbs.

Im not trying to pick a fight, its just really frustrating when people use correction factors that are absurd, ridiculous weights, tire sizes, etc etc and claim some BS horsepower number. Im sorry but there are thousands of real Dynos in every city from coast to coast. Tuners spend good money to buy these tools which are more accurate and quite honestly... safer. Screaming down a public street to do a VD run at 100 plus is just wreckless.

 

Hmm, interesting how you view this when the shoe is on the other foot. You are on Cobb's dyno and claimed it reads so and so blah blah blah even though people tell you it reads like a dynojet

Mr. Fred and 3dman aren't trying to inflate their numbers. I am not saying they are correct about the weight but its not like they did it intentionally.

I am guessing Kracka comes in here to clean this up, he hates when people let others know Cobbs dyno reads high haha Yay for dyno numbers stupidity.

 

What I appreciate more than anything are truth and fact. Inflated weight numbers are neither. Dynos read differently, that is a given, but a pound is a pound, it is a standardized measurement with no wiggle-room. I also appreciate actual dyno results over made up imaginary ones.

What I recommend is the OP go back and actually weigh his car on a certified scale then repost his results with the corrected data...or just go to a real dyno.

 

Every dyno is different(mustang, Dyno jet, Dynopack, etc) and wll all give you different values. I have a ported FP red with ex mani, ets dump, test pipe, catback, fic 1100 injects, dw300 fuel pump, 3.5" IC, 2.5" UICP, 2.75" LICP, Akuma SRI, Synapse DV and am tuned @ 25-26psi. I went to a local mustang with a buddy and my car red 295 whp. Would you say that is correct? VD states it is around 450 whp. My buddy has an MR with UICP, TBE and intake and was tuned at CBRD only had 175 whp at the same dyno. After the dyno run we both were very pissed off and heart broken so we did a pull in my buddies car to see what VD's mustang compared to CBRD's mustang dyno and the mustang dyno we were just at. VD's mustang was 290 whp and that was less than a 5 whp difference than what he had at CBRD's mustang dyno when he got tuned. I say VD is a very very good tool. Oh, when we did the VD run i account for both of our weights.

 

Shoe of the other foot? Interesting... not sure how you even came up with that one... but ok... I dont use VD. But also this point about Cobb's Dyno is moot. I dynoed at two different dynos, both mustangs and they were within 2.3 % of one another. But I invite you to come to Cobb's dyno and run your car I'd be curiuous how it compares to whatever you have run on so far.

 

Bite me If you think i havent had the car on a scale or i am lying about anything eat **** the car weight is 3560 empty with a half tank of fuel...
I curently weigh 312lbs this morning. The car was toped of with fuel to the top of the filler neck 2 gallons above the first time the gas pump clicked off just so i dont have to visit the e85 station 10 miles from my house any more often than i already do. I have been on cob surgelines dyno more than once. I have been on english racings dyno multiple times. The numbers are accurate of the weight of the car and im fat so except it. The car made 530 on er dyno jet with a base line tune at less psi less mivec. in 90* summer weather. our best vd numbers were 540 470 when weather was hot and intake temps were 95* the gains from then to now are 100% weather related. Anyone here should know mfred better than they know me and his facts good or bad should never be questioned he is a scientist by day and car tuner by night.

 

let us retake math class here I will be your teacher 3656+300+300 = 4256 a little more than barely 4000 lbs. 2008 gsr sss package =3560 calibrated scale. And we are on non public road in the middle of the night no traffic never even seen another car and you can see for miles.

 

For a maxed out FP Red on e85, these numbers seem pretty close. Cold, dense air in the winter plus all the mods done to the car, and I believe them. The VD weight adjustment might be a little off, but 565is whp on a red seems right when you consider that a black in the same setup makes 615ish. 50whp difference, as would be expected based on all the testing users have done on the X w/ the black and red.

 

I think that sums it up perfectly, but I'll add a few more details:

- If anyone is interested, dyno and VD results for this build at more normal temperatures are on the other Evo 10 forum website. I'd link to them here, but it doesn't work.
- None of the Evo 10 GSR settings in VD were changed except the weight of the vehicle as measured by 3dman1.