Great, can't wait to see the results! This turbo certainly does seem to be a good alternative to the other stock frame ones out there with good spool.

 

Yeah the next time Cobb does a tune I will bring a bunch of e85 for them to do a second map with just in case I ever find a station away from home.

 

Update - posted my results over on evoxforums and immediately everyone (including a couple renowned e-tuners) started screaming BS and that Cobb buffers their dyno by about 15%. So apparently my car isn't making what they say it's making. Sad really, it seems all of the money and faith me and the rest of their customers have invested in them was all for nothing. I guess when people ask me how much power my car is making, all I can legitimately do is shrug my shoulders with my hands in the air and say "I dunno, shur is fayast dough".

 

some good numbers here, one day i'll be there as well.

 

Any legitimacy behind being told they buff their numbers?

 

According to everyone over on that site, yes. In my opinion, I don't think any two dynos read the same so really I don't know why they made such a huge deal about it. Whateves, I know how my car feels and I love it.

 

I have never heard and such nonsense about COBB buffering their dynos.

A point to make here is I have seen quite a few people with the same mods put down the same (ballpark) numbers on different dynos at different shops. Obviously every dyno reads a bit different, and mustang dynos read lower than dynojet but if multiple other people hit the same figures it stands to reason you're very close to being accurate.

In other news, this turbo is what sold me on trading my STI for an X because you can crack 400WHP, retain stock drive ability, and for the most part also retain longevity.

 

Agreed. I tried explaining this but my experience is most of the "veteran" members on that site suffer from severe elitism and pounce on any opportunity to pull the "shut up noob" card.

What I don't understand is how anyone can claim their dyno numbers are the "truest" of them all. Clearly there are infinite factors and just as many calibration options.

Like I said, whatevs (to those guys). I haven't lost a stoplight pull (modded m3's, m5's, countless sti's) and kept up side by side with a stock GTR. All that on a stock block daily driver that is now easier/feels better to drive than when it was completely stock.

And yes, the MHI is about as safe as you can go for turbo upgrades. I hit these numbers on just under 24lbs of boost. Crazy since my EF2.5 would only hit 391/360 (same tuner, same shop, same dyno) on just over 28lbs.
Best turbo you can buy if you don't want to spend $5k on an EFR kit.

 

The MHI is what, $1,700? The rest of the parts (supporting mods) total to like $3,500. Thats assuming new pump/injectors, TBE, Intake, Upgraded Intercooer and an EBC. For roughly 5K, you can get such a brilliant blend of power/dollar.

I'm all for not building the block, and with a setup as fun as this there's no need to unless you plan on taking this to GTR killer levels. At which point, I'd have just bought a GTR.

 

People and their dyno numbers. I personally don't care about final numbers as much as percentage gain. As long as your baseline and final pulls are done on the same dyno, you can get an idea of how much improvement has been made and at the end of the day, isn't that what really matters? Just my thoughts anyway.

 

That + trap speed.

Or seconds improved. Whatever floats your boat.

 

I totally disagree. Yes, for your own thought process, the actual HP number doesn't really make a difference. But for anything outside of your own brain, it is really the only thing that matters. If you are anywhere and anyone asks you about your car, what is the first thing they will want to know? Not your 60ft time. It really is a lot more important than you are leading on. It's the basis for any comparison you would make from one car to another. Yes there are an infinite number of other factors, but until the base performance number is universally known as the 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile time, HP is the first thing 99.99% of the population will ask you about.

I feel like people who say HP doesn't matter are just looking for ways to make themselves sound smarter/better/cooler than those of us who do care. Last I checked, the overwhelming majority of people undoubtedly care about actual WHP numbers and until that scale tips in the other direction, I will continue to answer interested onlooker's questions directly and not give them some trap speed they probably don't understand.

 

So when you're driving around and some guy hollers "hey what kind of power are you putting down", are you going to tell them "80% over stock!" ???

No.

 

I suppose my take on it is if the percentage gain is very good, and your trap speeds/lap time improve then those are good judgments of how much or how far your money/modifications have gotten you. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to push my Evo to make sure it has a 4xx in the front of it, but I wouldn't discount those other factors quite so much. Personally.

Its probably a product of what type of car people/friends you interact with. I have friends that will say "What does your dyno graph trap?" and friends that say "How many seconds did the dyno cut off for you?". Then I have friends who as you say just talk about power goals and figures. It's all good with me, but it's definitely not a one sided argument.