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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Want to upgrade amp/speakers/small self contained sub{old infinity basslink} in 2013 MR and keep stock head unit but have questions. 1] If I install line converters what about the different sound fields with the stock head unit? 2] if there is a pigtail in the trunk for a RF sub can someone identify what wires are what?
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spdfour
Want to upgrade amp/speakers/small self contained sub{old infinity basslink} in 2013 MR and keep stock head unit but have questions. 1] If I install line converters what about the different sound fields with the stock head unit? 2] if there is a pigtail in the trunk for a RF sub can someone identify what wires are what?
if you removed the stock amplifier you will lose all that, because there is no power sent from the deck to amplifier to use a line converter on. You'd have to use the converter on each channel of the deck, and the deck is an 8 channel mess of a design and not even worth it.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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Same here, I want to add Basslink to standard stereo unit.
Maybe I can tab the rear speaker wire for it?
But, rear speakers are w/i rear doors and I dont want to crack any doors open.
Maybe trace the speaker wire behind the frame plastic panels...

Where the stock amp located? Under the seats?
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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if you removed the stock amplifier you will lose all that, because there is no power sent from the deck to amplifier to use a line converter on. You'd have to use the converter on each channel of the deck, and the deck is an 8 channel mess of a design and not even worth it.

Its not a rockford fosgate system amp is internal to head unit
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by spyderx
Same here, I want to add Basslink to standard stereo unit.
Maybe I can tab the rear speaker wire for it?
But, rear speakers are w/i rear doors and I dont want to crack any doors open.
Maybe trace the speaker wire behind the frame plastic panels...

Where the stock amp located? Under the seats?
someone said there is a pigtail in the trunk upper left hand side for the rockford sub even if you don't have the rockford system.I havent checked and dont know what wires are what and maybe could be used for bass link

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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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If you want to upgrade and keep factory unit (why?) without RF system use this - Audiocontrol LC2i. The audiocontrol pieces are much better than using a passive LOC, without all the complication of a JL Audio Cleensweep or RF 360. The issue that you will run into using passive LOCs is bass attenuation. As you turn up the volume, the factory stereo will adjust bass levels to keep factory speakers in a safe operating range. Great for not blowing factory speakers, not so good for adding subs.

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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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You can grab signal at any speaker, but it would probably be easiest to get it at the back of the radio, or from the drivers side kick panel where it runs into the front door.
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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14 stock touch screen w/ bluetooth is nice in functions so I want to keep it but lacks in power and bass. Since I have the basslink I should try to add it then see ...

and, I really dont want to crack open the door panels just now... maybe few years later...
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeleclair2000
If you want to upgrade and keep factory unit (why?) without RF system use this - Audiocontrol LC2i. The audiocontrol pieces are much better than using a passive LOC, without all the complication of a JL Audio Cleensweep or RF 360. The issue that you will run into using passive LOCs is bass attenuation. As you turn up the volume, the factory stereo will adjust bass levels to keep factory speakers in a safe operating range. Great for not blowing factory speakers, not so good for adding subs.
Why: bluetooth and steering wheel controls
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeleclair2000
If you want to upgrade and keep factory unit (why?) without RF system use this - Audiocontrol LC2i. The audiocontrol pieces are much better than using a passive LOC, without all the complication of a JL Audio Cleensweep or RF 360. The issue that you will run into using passive LOCs is bass attenuation. As you turn up the volume, the factory stereo will adjust bass levels to keep factory speakers in a safe operating range. Great for not blowing factory speakers, not so good for adding subs.
LOC ? line XXX? converter? I used line converters - speaker level to rca in my RX8 and they worked well although it was a simpler head unit thanks for the help/suggestions
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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LOC = Line Output Converter

Passive (non-powered) speaker level to rca converters WILL work, but the signal output wont be as strong or clear as a active (powered) converter. There is also the issue of bass attenuation, witch i feel is the main reason to use an active loc vs. passive.

also, you would be able to retain SWC and bluetooth with aftermarket unit (with appropriate modules of course)
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 09:59 AM
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they are sometimes called hi/lo converters too
didn't know the 2014 has touch screen and all that!! I have the 2013 poverty model :/

if it's internal amplified, then yes, your stock sound fields would remain. Just use a good hi/low converter and it should be fine.
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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2013 poverty model = hilarious!
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Old Jun 21, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeleclair2000
2013 poverty model = hilarious!
Poverty model in a lancer evo is an oxymoron isnt it? jake thanks for the answers/advice. Decided on antipoverty stereo JVC kwv 50 bt HU pioneer tsd1720c/tsd 1702r speakers my old JBL Px 300.4 amp and old Infinity basslin subwoofer the JVC HU will retain bluetooth and steering wheel functions with converter
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Old Jun 21, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Anyone find a dual DIN kit for 2014 base touch screen radio?
I'm ready to install my Alpine single din HU...
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