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Old Jan 22, 2008, 07:59 AM
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How long to hack the X ecu?

I would like some of those in the know to discuss how long they think it will be before we can start tuning the X's stock ecu and if anyone has started trying.
Old Jan 22, 2008, 08:03 AM
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I am going to hopefully start to see if we cant get the ROM off our Evo and then send it to Tephra and JSCbanks so they can try and disassemble it. I am sure that we can get it done.

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tephra said with getting the rom, disasm, and making definitions it would probably be 6 months for something like ECUflash to work with it. I am not sure if he was being facetious though.
Old Jan 22, 2008, 08:26 AM
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I think someone should rename this one, how to void your warranty by hacking your EVO's ecu.

joking. I already heard break thrus in Japan with tuning, but dont know the name of the group doing that i will ask around
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haha ^

every1 does it...
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The MR is going to be there real trick. Not only do you have to hack both the ecu and the transmission ecu, but they talk to each other with two way communication.
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And look how long it took to get the Evo ECU support that it has today. And that is on a protocol that has been around for what, 10 years? I have a feeling it is going to be a while before the X ECU can really take off.
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Does anyone know where companies like AEM and Cobb are on this for add on and replacement options?
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Cobb tuning has already been on top of this, even before the car came out

http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/?p=46
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I don't think it will be that long for the 5-speed models, now the SST may be a different story. Hopefully that doesn't take that long either, but who knows?
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Originally Posted by RallySport Direct
Cobb tuning has already been on top of this, even before the car came out

http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/?p=46
Great...looks like this may be our first option
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Last I heard, the VW guys were still having trouble with tuning for the R32 transmission ... the Evo X MR transmission is very similar, so you can expect that to be quite a battle for tuning.
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I heard that the system is on a CanOpen bus, which is an open protocol with a standards body. I sell a lot of industrial automation equipment that uses CanOpen, and we can probably find some protocol analyzers etc to see whats going on as far as the communications goes. Might also be able to add some neat devices onto the bus to do some fancy stuff (think flashing lights, etc...).
If anyone in their line of work uses Allen Bradley and DeviceNet...DeviceNet is a subset of CanOpen.
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I've heard that some of the tuners are going back to the HKS F-Con VPro, and have had good luck with that so far. The ECU flashing seems to be a long, painstaking process as of now, but I'm sure the results will pay off.

Jerry


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