Let me know when you reset a code with the OT-1, Diagnose CEL's, give feedback from MIL statuses, setup triggers based on events, etc, etc, etc. Granted, they do have nice little spreadsheets, and fancy gauges, etc. woohoo. I would take that $150 and just buy a wideband personally and wait for a open source scanner, that does more then just log.

 

The OT-1 can show and reset CEL's. It can also be daisy chained with all innovate products, Real time horsepower and torque calculator (for what it's worth), can show any value on innovate gauges in real-time, can setup triggers based on events, etc etc. As you can see, it does much more than "just log".

All that said, I am still having a **** of a time getting the thing to work correctly.

From looking both specs over, I think the OT-1 is a better tuners tool while the Actron seems more like a better diagnostic tool.

 

So it does, had to download the product sheet to verify since the web page just says it logs. Guess you need to haul your laptop around. What a shame. What kind of issues are you having, this should literally be a plug and play scenario. Your also going to love having something hitting you in your shin all the time since they put the OBD-II port in a terrible spot.

 

You just sold me on the Actron, I didn't know it pulls OBD-II data out of thin air with no connector needed.

 

? Who said you can use it without the connector? I was sharing with you my frustrations of having the connector located where it is. Its easy enough to move however, since you are doing a permanent install.

Once again though, why are you having issues. This is a plug and play device, how could you be having any issues getting it to work? Please explain.

 

I was joking PDXEvo.

 

Understood, but really, what are the issues you are having?

 

Some driver/PC connection issues. I personally think the product has been rushed to market. Hopefully I can get the issues ironed out.

 

Doesnt it just log to a memory card that you can pull out and put on your PC? Whats the PC interface on the box? Is it serial or USB? Do you have to have all the other ports terminated before it will work? (You have to do this with the LC-1 which is why I ask)

 

I wish it just logged to memory card. That is one thing I think the logging tools in this industry lack. The track lap loggers like the G2X can log to a CF card. I don't understand why nobody does that with engine data logging tools yet. Other than AEM EMS but that is a full standalone.

It would help me out ALOT for all the track cars we tune.

It is a USB interface. I had some port problems on my laptop that I have resolved but I haven't tried the OT-1 since then, maybe I will find some time today.

 

PDXEvo, the benefit of the OT1 or any product from innovate is that they make tools that work together to tune cars, LC1, OT1, Logworks, etc. These tools are designed for tuning and are able to be chained together and their data all collected in one application.

Like Razorlab said, Actron's devices are designed for troubleshooting and repair, not tuning.

What we are looking for is a platform independant logging solution to pull in data from any OBD II / CAN car and combine the ECU's data with the tuners sensor data (wideband, dyno, etc) and be able to view it all in a usable application (logworks for example). Were looking for portable solutions not permanent installations, as tuners tune different cars. For OBDII Evo's we have EvoScan and the Tactrix cable to accomplish this, and many of us use logworks or dataloglab to analyze datalogs. If the OT1 can work as it's supposed to, it will allow any OBDII or CAN car to be logged, combined with wb data (or other sensors), and analyzed together in Logworks or other applications. Innovate features and protocols are supported in most professional tuning applications.

 

It really is too bad this doesnt log to a flash device of some sort so you can get rid of the need to carry a laptop every where you go. Thats what I like about some of the self contained units. You can just tell them to start logging when an event occurs, and when you get home you can just plug it into your system and see what happened.

I have a hell of a time getting any of the innovate stuff to connect to my system the first time I use it. Once its connected its fine though, and they offer good enough support to help troubleshoot stuff. At the end of the day though, I think the Zeitronix setup would be more cost effective once you build the entire Innovate package to perform at the same level.

And Mr. Evo, I disagree with your analysis that this is a portable tool. This is designed to be installed, permanently, and plugged into other components. A good example of a portable tool would be the LM-1, or any other device that is completely self contained and doesnt require a computer, or other device, to make it usable.

 

The OT-1 is fully portable. It's about 2" by 1".

It's more portable than the LM-1, size wise at least. I understand what you are saying about the LM-1 be portable as it has a display.

As far as lugging around a laptop. Being a tuner, I have a laptop connected to my hip at all times.

So far a laptop is more powerful than any portable unit I have come across as it is by far more flexible than anything else.

I really wish somebody would come out with a small enough portable unit that does everything a laptop does but doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I would kill for one to put into track cars and get track data.

 

UPDATE on my testing:

I can't get the OT-1 to work correctly.

I think it was rushed to market and would urge people not to purchase it yet.

 

Whats your definition of "costs an arm and a leg"?