Excellent gains from the "Buschur Flash", dyno charts attached.
I am not going to raise the boost any further on pump gas until I can properly log and "live tune" the car here. This is a mail in flash in the car now. I feel some proper logging is needed to go further. For now I am quite confident in the 24 psi level that Mitsubishi let the car run at. This will be the max boost for pump gas.
I am not going to raise the boost any further on pump gas until I can properly log and "live tune" the car here. This is a mail in flash in the car now. I feel some proper logging is needed to go further. For now I am quite confident in the 24 psi level that Mitsubishi let the car run at. This will be the max boost for pump gas.
I do not know that anyone will be able to fix the boost taper without trying to make the little turbo simply thrash the heck out of the air. While you may be able to stem the boost taper in all reality you *might* not be accomplishing much by doing so as you *could* end up increasing the IAT's too much. Yes a good intercooler like Davids will help, but there will absolutely be a point of not only diminishing returns, but you could end up stressing the heck out of the stock turbo. The upcoming (currently being tested) FP Green could/probably will help out in this regaurd, but they could be already approaching the limits of the stock turbo. David may be able to answer this.
By and large once you increase the efficiency of the intake exhaust track to a certain point it will be harder to maintain boost as it is going in and out faster/easier. Pure boost alone is not necissarily the answer, the most efficient use of what you are getting is. If they can get good safe numbers with boost taper as opposed to someone who runs more boost (more heat) and gets the same numbers, well, I will take the lower boost same numbers ANY day of the week. Hell on my last Evo I ended up only running 20 lbs but still had 365whp/370tq and was happy with it as I was not in constant fear of a meltdown. I guess that is just my take on things and no offence intended for anyone reading.
After reading Davids post I guess that the X goes to 24lbs stock? That is pretty high for stock programing but I am sure that it is safe if that is what Mitsu is using.
By and large once you increase the efficiency of the intake exhaust track to a certain point it will be harder to maintain boost as it is going in and out faster/easier. Pure boost alone is not necissarily the answer, the most efficient use of what you are getting is. If they can get good safe numbers with boost taper as opposed to someone who runs more boost (more heat) and gets the same numbers, well, I will take the lower boost same numbers ANY day of the week. Hell on my last Evo I ended up only running 20 lbs but still had 365whp/370tq and was happy with it as I was not in constant fear of a meltdown. I guess that is just my take on things and no offence intended for anyone reading.

After reading Davids post I guess that the X goes to 24lbs stock? That is pretty high for stock programing but I am sure that it is safe if that is what Mitsu is using.
David, I have the off topic posts highlighted already on my computer. I feel that your explanation posts explain everything well, so I would leave anything you have written.
All the Ecuflash, drag race driving, clutch talk, and gains vs. Vishnu talk can be removed with the click of a button.
If you want those changes, shoot me a PM. I think people need to focus on the gains and not off topic crap, but I don't want to change your thread without checking first.
All the Ecuflash, drag race driving, clutch talk, and gains vs. Vishnu talk can be removed with the click of a button.
If you want those changes, shoot me a PM. I think people need to focus on the gains and not off topic crap, but I don't want to change your thread without checking first.
I appreciate the offer, let it all for now. No argueing going on.
Also, update.
We took the car to the track again tonight. Not much better.
The stock clutch, stock RPM launch limit are killing the car's times.
12.66 at 110.XX, don't remember exactly, it was the very first pass of the night. A couple more 12.7's. Overall I am disapointed to be honest. The car is SO much smoother. Seems to be driving right through the clutch. Couldn't get the car out of the 1.80 sixty foot times tonight. Trent was driving again and did his best.
We need a good clutch and a higher launch control, then it's on.
Also, update.
We took the car to the track again tonight. Not much better.
The stock clutch, stock RPM launch limit are killing the car's times.
12.66 at 110.XX, don't remember exactly, it was the very first pass of the night. A couple more 12.7's. Overall I am disapointed to be honest. The car is SO much smoother. Seems to be driving right through the clutch. Couldn't get the car out of the 1.80 sixty foot times tonight. Trent was driving again and did his best.
We need a good clutch and a higher launch control, then it's on.
USP45, very very good post, that is one of the smartest posts I have read in quite some time.
gsr, I haven't checked with Exedy yet, I keep forgetting. I don't think they have released one yet.
gsr, I haven't checked with Exedy yet, I keep forgetting. I don't think they have released one yet.
I thought I saw a thread somewhere that Turbotrix removed a pill somewhere on the clutch line which took care of the factory 2 step problem. Maybe that will help you get faster times since it will help with the launches.
i realize buschur being the company that they are, would have a perfectly capable driver for there capable product. how do people get ahead in this world? put themself out there. who wouldnt want to drive for buschur?
exactly my point.
maybe my skill is in 12 second cars, maybe i can try out for driving there EVO X, and you can keep trent for 9's or faster.
uh oh, or maybe for saying that ill get owned again =p
back to topic, good gains for just boltons without raising boost. like you said shiv got 60hp from doing that... wait until you apply a tune similiar to shiv's ontop of the gains you already made from your boltons. its going to sick
EDIT : one more thing, after over 1000 post like i have, you probably do get "owned" a few times. its a part of growing and learning. thats why im here, to voice my opinion and try to learn. getting "owned" is a part of that IMO. * but owned is such a stupid term, people dont always say what they mean or the right thing *
Last edited by EvoRecordSetter; Apr 24, 2008 at 04:18 PM.
12sec evo is cake to drive imo....little different controlling 150+mph 9sec cars. One thing I believe if Trent runs bads time in the X I am sure almost everybody else will.
I am curious to why it didn't run any faster with the much nicer looking tune. That is somewhat dissapointing. Nice clutch should help to knock a couple tenths off.
I am curious to why it didn't run any faster with the much nicer looking tune. That is somewhat dissapointing. Nice clutch should help to knock a couple tenths off.
From your previous post, I thought you guys were already at 295whp. I was hoping to see some big numbers like 320whp or better. Glad to see at least the tune is smoothing out the hp delivery. Keep up the good work.











