HUGE Props For Ecutek !
Last evening I had the pleasure to work with the newest firm ware of Ecutek on a almost bone stock Evo X (only a upper fmic pipe).
Ecutek has really invested a ton of time in the solution of a CEL problem we had and also making some great base maps.
I am super impressed with the power.
The end results were a easy 50 whp and TQ gain over stock and the car ran really well on my road testing.
Here are the final numbers 310 / 308.
The boost control on the ecu is fantastic and negates the need for any type of aftermarket boost control. Data logging is great and the overall feel and operation of the software was excelent.
In life sometimes you do get what you pay for.
I am on my way to Buschur Racing to do more R & D on the Buschur Flashes for Buschur parts and staged mods this week will have more results then.
Just as a side note its great to see that the Buschur Evo X has been running our mail in Buschur Flash tune at the winged warrior event and running hard and running strong.
Al
Ecutek has really invested a ton of time in the solution of a CEL problem we had and also making some great base maps.
I am super impressed with the power.
The end results were a easy 50 whp and TQ gain over stock and the car ran really well on my road testing.
Here are the final numbers 310 / 308.
The boost control on the ecu is fantastic and negates the need for any type of aftermarket boost control. Data logging is great and the overall feel and operation of the software was excelent.
In life sometimes you do get what you pay for.
I am on my way to Buschur Racing to do more R & D on the Buschur Flashes for Buschur parts and staged mods this week will have more results then.
Just as a side note its great to see that the Buschur Evo X has been running our mail in Buschur Flash tune at the winged warrior event and running hard and running strong.
Al
Probably it is based on some people's preference but for me I don't really agree or like the way some people boost the stock turbo to gain so much horsepower.
I mean may be the stock turbo can take that much extra boost, but would it have enough one day and breaks down?
The other question is, how safe is this kind of boosting to the standard turbo? I know for IX, standard boost is like 1.3 Bar, and 1 Bar is abt 14.7 PSI(Correct me if I am wrong)? I own a IX MR and may include used ECUtek (buy from other member here I guess) in my buying list.
Sorry if this is off topic or something. Would rather ask tuners than going blindly myself.
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Hey, I don't own a X but I want to ask some questions regarding this ECUtek.
Probably it is based on some people's preference but for me I don't really agree or like the way some people boost the stock turbo to gain so much horsepower.
I mean may be the stock turbo can take that much extra boost, but would it have enough one day and breaks down?
The other question is, how safe is this kind of boosting to the standard turbo? I know for IX, standard boost is like 1.3 Bar, and 1 Bar is abt 14.7 PSI(Correct me if I am wrong)? I own a IX MR and may include used ECUtek (buy from other member here I guess) in my buying list.
Sorry if this is off topic or something. Would rather ask tuners than going blindly myself.
Probably it is based on some people's preference but for me I don't really agree or like the way some people boost the stock turbo to gain so much horsepower.
I mean may be the stock turbo can take that much extra boost, but would it have enough one day and breaks down?
The other question is, how safe is this kind of boosting to the standard turbo? I know for IX, standard boost is like 1.3 Bar, and 1 Bar is abt 14.7 PSI(Correct me if I am wrong)? I own a IX MR and may include used ECUtek (buy from other member here I guess) in my buying list.
Sorry if this is off topic or something. Would rather ask tuners than going blindly myself.
Your points are valid and certainly on the topic at hand. As for the boost capacity of the stock X turbo, the X comes from the factory making 22 - 23 psi of boost and although its a small turbo it seems quite happy pumping out that kind of an initial spike.
I point out a few things, I hope that inteligent members will listen to what I have to say on how a reflash tune is developed.
I did not jump on the band wagon and start throwing out a untested product on my customer's cars. I believe strongly in testing on OUR cars before the customer's cars and that is why we have a Evo X to test and do R & D.
I resisted the urge to start pumping out tunes in customers cars even though I was the first or one of the first to aquire the new technology in the US. I consulted with many experts in Japan and the UK to provide extensive advice and feedback on how the Evo X responded to tuning and modifications. When the Ecutek Evo X came out a couple of months ago we started with our already well tested Evo X from our facility and tested it and tested again.
Then when I felt we had a decent map we sent it to David Buschur for more testing feed back and thrashing - including road racing. It was good to see that the tune and car help up to the Winged Warrior event.
After I had all this data and feed back and several weeks of close observation of how the car and tune react over a wide range of climatic and operational conditions, at that point I felt it was time to take on some customer cars.
I certainly do not have all the answers on what the limits of the Evo x are at this point, we are still pushing the boundries of the Evo 8 and evo IX years later.
I believe STRONGLY that the first examples of customer tunes have to be conservative and on the safe side and that is how I am conduicting my tuning on the customer cars for the time being until more reports come back from other tuners and Ecutek regarding how the X is holding up.
Although the name of the car is Evo X - its a totally new engine and platform this is why a cautious and conservative approach and mind set are key to helping protect our customer's investment.
Al
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Yay for the ecutek! sorry if this has been answered before, but does the new flash lock the ecu like the previous versions? and as for the tuning capabilities of the 4b11...i guess the fact the pistons are made by Mahle really foreshadowed the potential of it, in spite of the "weak" semi-open deck aluminum block...
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Yay for the ecutek! sorry if this has been answered before, but does the new flash lock the ecu like the previous versions? and as for the tuning capabilities of the 4b11...i guess the fact the pistons are made by Mahle really foreshadowed the potential of it, in spite of the "weak" semi-open deck aluminum block...
We have seen good results on the motors so far with cars doing hard road racing on pump gas at 350 - 360 whp. It seems like a great motor to me with everything I have seen thus far.
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I am pleased to report that all the cars we have out there are working great with no CEL or other issues and several of them out doing road racing and other forms of very abusive driving.
Given the great success and the body of tuning data I have collected, I am ghoing to start offering mail in reflashes for these cars for the follwoing configurations at this point in time
Stock Evo X - 91 and 93 octane - ecu boost control - 45 - 50 whp gains
Buschur Flash - Versions for Stage I - III - 91 and 93 octane - available through Buschur Racing only
As I do more cars I will expand the mail in program to include more types and kinds of modifications.
Al
Given the great success and the body of tuning data I have collected, I am ghoing to start offering mail in reflashes for these cars for the follwoing configurations at this point in time
Stock Evo X - 91 and 93 octane - ecu boost control - 45 - 50 whp gains
Buschur Flash - Versions for Stage I - III - 91 and 93 octane - available through Buschur Racing only
As I do more cars I will expand the mail in program to include more types and kinds of modifications.
Al
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what are the cost of your mail in flash, second why couldnt you flash for intake and exhaust. even a conservative flash should net a few more ponies. I just think everyone right now is doing the exhaust and CAI so you should have a good starting point for these as well.
what are the cost of your mail in flash, second why couldnt you flash for intake and exhaust. even a conservative flash should net a few more ponies. I just think everyone right now is doing the exhaust and CAI so you should have a good starting point for these as well.
I am pleased to report that all the cars we have out there are working great with no CEL or other issues and several of them out doing road racing and other forms of very abusive driving.
Given the great success and the body of tuning data I have collected, I am ghoing to start offering mail in reflashes for these cars for the follwoing configurations at this point in time
Stock Evo X - 91 and 93 octane - ecu boost control - 45 - 50 whp gains
Buschur Flash - Versions for Stage I - III - 91 and 93 octane - available through Buschur Racing only
As I do more cars I will expand the mail in program to include more types and kinds of modifications.
Al
Given the great success and the body of tuning data I have collected, I am ghoing to start offering mail in reflashes for these cars for the follwoing configurations at this point in time
Stock Evo X - 91 and 93 octane - ecu boost control - 45 - 50 whp gains
Buschur Flash - Versions for Stage I - III - 91 and 93 octane - available through Buschur Racing only
As I do more cars I will expand the mail in program to include more types and kinds of modifications.
Al
The only downfall is: How long will the stock clutch last me?
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The Buschur Flash is very fairly priced and available to support all the Buschur Staged upgrades.
Also, once you have the Buschur Flash if you stay with Buschur parts then the updates are available at a nominal price for when you update.
Al
Your points are valid and certainly on the topic at hand. As for the boost capacity of the stock X turbo, the X comes from the factory making 22 - 23 psi of boost and although its a small turbo it seems quite happy pumping out that kind of an initial spike.
I point out a few things, I hope that inteligent members will listen to what I have to say on how a reflash tune is developed.
I did not jump on the band wagon and start throwing out a untested product on my customer's cars. I believe strongly in testing on OUR cars before the customer's cars and that is why we have a Evo X to test and do R & D.
I resisted the urge to start pumping out tunes in customers cars even though I was the first or one of the first to aquire the new technology in the US. I consulted with many experts in Japan and the UK to provide extensive advice and feedback on how the Evo X responded to tuning and modifications. When the Ecutek Evo X came out a couple of months ago we started with our already well tested Evo X from our facility and tested it and tested again.
Then when I felt we had a decent map we sent it to David Buschur for more testing feed back and thrashing - including road racing. It was good to see that the tune and car help up to the Winged Warrior event.
After I had all this data and feed back and several weeks of close observation of how the car and tune react over a wide range of climatic and operational conditions, at that point I felt it was time to take on some customer cars.
I certainly do not have all the answers on what the limits of the Evo x are at this point, we are still pushing the boundries of the Evo 8 and evo IX years later.
I believe STRONGLY that the first examples of customer tunes have to be conservative and on the safe side and that is how I am conduicting my tuning on the customer cars for the time being until more reports come back from other tuners and Ecutek regarding how the X is holding up.
Although the name of the car is Evo X - its a totally new engine and platform this is why a cautious and conservative approach and mind set are key to helping protect our customer's investment.
Al
I point out a few things, I hope that inteligent members will listen to what I have to say on how a reflash tune is developed.
I did not jump on the band wagon and start throwing out a untested product on my customer's cars. I believe strongly in testing on OUR cars before the customer's cars and that is why we have a Evo X to test and do R & D.
I resisted the urge to start pumping out tunes in customers cars even though I was the first or one of the first to aquire the new technology in the US. I consulted with many experts in Japan and the UK to provide extensive advice and feedback on how the Evo X responded to tuning and modifications. When the Ecutek Evo X came out a couple of months ago we started with our already well tested Evo X from our facility and tested it and tested again.
Then when I felt we had a decent map we sent it to David Buschur for more testing feed back and thrashing - including road racing. It was good to see that the tune and car help up to the Winged Warrior event.
After I had all this data and feed back and several weeks of close observation of how the car and tune react over a wide range of climatic and operational conditions, at that point I felt it was time to take on some customer cars.
I certainly do not have all the answers on what the limits of the Evo x are at this point, we are still pushing the boundries of the Evo 8 and evo IX years later.
I believe STRONGLY that the first examples of customer tunes have to be conservative and on the safe side and that is how I am conduicting my tuning on the customer cars for the time being until more reports come back from other tuners and Ecutek regarding how the X is holding up.
Although the name of the car is Evo X - its a totally new engine and platform this is why a cautious and conservative approach and mind set are key to helping protect our customer's investment.
Al
Man remember the days we were testing an unkown flash rom on your car back in 2004 I think. Time flies.
The Buschur Flash is very fairly priced and available to support all the Buschur Staged upgrades.
Also, once you have the Buschur Flash if you stay with Buschur parts then the updates are available at a nominal price for when you update.
Al
The Buschur Flash is very fairly priced and available to support all the Buschur Staged upgrades.
Also, once you have the Buschur Flash if you stay with Buschur parts then the updates are available at a nominal price for when you update.
Al
I went to Buschur's web site and they had no info on the stage III or the flash. I guess I'll have to give them a call.
Al did let me know when Ecutek updates the software to work with the latest dealer flash. So that you can back up my tune, so that I can get the dealer update to fix a slight idle issue I have.
Is the Ecutek tuning invisible to the dealer? I am about to move and the dealer I will be going to is fairly cool about most mods but says that he has to report any changes to the ECU. Since the Ecutek is a piggy back unit, will anything it does show up on the ECU or will it "disappear" once I pull the unit?