~~RRE tune 338whp/324lbft
RRE dynapak dyno's anywhere from 20-30 whp less then the Dyno Jets in the local area in So Cal.
Jooyoung, has dyno'd at TT which has a Dyno Jet and then Dyno'd at RRE w/ there dynopack and his car made 20whp less then the dynojet.
to the OP, VERY NICE numbers.
-Chris
Jooyoung, has dyno'd at TT which has a Dyno Jet and then Dyno'd at RRE w/ there dynopack and his car made 20whp less then the dynojet.
to the OP, VERY NICE numbers.
-Chris
Chris do you know if anyone has made any progress with a turbo upgrade over there at RRE? I know that Jooyoung was looking into it.
For right now, the cheap and easy thing would be to get a turbo from DTM, Forced Performance, anyone that offers the "oem" type replacement. That's what Ja is looking into.
Other then that, I am sure someone will be making affordable turbo kits soon.
Kinda gotta be patient.
AFI has a twin scroll Full replacement, that would boost the X into the 500-600 whp range. Stop by RRE in the middle of Sept, and you can check it out in person on my car.
-Chris
Other then that, I am sure someone will be making affordable turbo kits soon.
Kinda gotta be patient.
AFI has a twin scroll Full replacement, that would boost the X into the 500-600 whp range. Stop by RRE in the middle of Sept, and you can check it out in person on my car.
-Chris
For right now, the cheap and easy thing would be to get a turbo from DTM, Forced Performance, anyone that offers the "oem" type replacement. That's what Ja is looking into.
Other then that, I am sure someone will be making affordable turbo kits soon.
Kinda gotta be patient.
AFI has a twin scroll Full replacement, that would boost the X into the 500-600 whp range. Stop by RRE in the middle of Sept, and you can check it out in person on my car.
-Chris
Other then that, I am sure someone will be making affordable turbo kits soon.
Kinda gotta be patient.
AFI has a twin scroll Full replacement, that would boost the X into the 500-600 whp range. Stop by RRE in the middle of Sept, and you can check it out in person on my car.
-Chris
I'm not saying any of that. I was comparing two CA dyno's on 91 octane, NO TUNE, baseline runs.
Now when you factor in, 2 different tuners, 2 different locations, theres a couple variables. No two dyno's are the same, just like no two X's are the same.
Dyno's are tools for tuning. Nothing more nothing less.
-Chris
Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.
Dyno dynamics are the lowest reading, with mustangs being pretty close but certain shops, I'm not going to name any names, have manipulated the dynos somehow to read more like a dynojet or even higher. Put it this way, a setup almost identical to this made right at 300 at dyno4mance. They had an ultimate racing tubo back with a mini muffler test pipe, a nisei uicp, a works drop in filter and a cstom tune with ecutek.
Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.
Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.

Dyno dynamics are the lowest reading, with mustangs being pretty close but certain shops, I'm not going to name any names, have manipulated the dynos somehow to read more like a dynojet or even higher. Put it this way, a setup almost identical to this made right at 300 at dyno4mance. They had an ultimate racing tubo back with a mini muffler test pipe, a nisei uicp, a works drop in filter and a cstom tune with ecutek.
Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.
Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.

So what's your guess?
^Based on what RRE's dyno is reading at I am guessing that it will be almost the same, maybe a hair higher. TT's dynojet reads a bit higher than most dyno jets, but RRE's numbers are pretty in line with what most dynojets read. Dyna Packs read high, but that's not a big deal because the gains vs stock are at least somewhat quantifyable because they are at least load based and not inertia based. What does a stock X make at RRE's dyno? I'm guessing about 245 whp, which is dyno jet type numbers. A dyno dynamics like the one at Dyno4mance reads a stock X at about 220 for a frame of reference. Like I said before though, if you run your car at dyno4mance or anywhere with a properly calibrated dyno dynamics dyno, that setup will net right at about 300whp.
Last edited by STi2EvoX; Aug 17, 2008 at 12:34 AM.


