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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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Dyno dynamics are the lowest reading, with mustangs being pretty close but certain shops, I'm not going to name any names, have manipulated the dynos somehow to read more like a dynojet or even higher. Put it this way, a setup almost identical to this made right at 300 at dyno4mance. They had an ultimate racing tubo back with a mini muffler test pipe, a nisei uicp, a works drop in filter and a cstom tune with ecutek.

Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.
I think your stretching the effects alittle. I have a Dyno Jet Dyno , 2 wheel version , we have not seen those difference on our cars or customers cars. they do place a load on the vehicle, the drum wts 6000lbs , so back to physics
F=MxA the faster you move the drum the more force you have. some tend to argue the other way that it puts to much load on the car. we have never seen one of our Dyno tunes act any different with knock on the street that wasnt related to significant weather difference. Different Dynos have different numbers and as mentioned before this is just a tool for tuning. we have run 3 pro drag cars most putting down 900-1000 hp , ours will go up to 1200hp. our testing was within 30-50hp difference they saw on other dynos.
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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What was the cost for the tune and where is RRE located? thanks
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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RRE is located in Santa Fe Springs Ca

13022 La Dana Ct
Santa Fe Springs CA

email is the key to set an appt. for a tune.

mike@roadraceengineering.com

I think the Tune/license with the EcuTek is going for around $750.00
(this includes unlimited amounts of dyno time to get the tune perfect)

-Chris
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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not to name drop but I am curious what you guys would prefer over RRE and EDO. I hear they do a pretty good tune as well. Any feedback would be great. I am in Irvine so they are both about the same. thanks
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Do your research...

RRE has been around and is NOT a fly by night shop
EVERYONE in the DSM, 2g, 3g, 4g Eclipse, Evo 8, 9 and Evo X knows about them.

I've personally been taking my cars to RRE since 2002. They've never steered me in the wrong direction, there pricing is fair, and there labor is top notch.

They are one of the true pioneers in the DSM/ Mitsubishi tuning and performance.

and me, personally.. i've never heard of EDO, so I can't help you with that.

-Chris
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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you have a website for rre?
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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www.roadraceengineering.com
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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nice numbers
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DC_TypeR
RRE is located in Santa Fe Springs Ca

13022 La Dana Ct
Santa Fe Springs CA

email is the key to set an appt. for a tune.

mike@roadraceengineering.com

I think the Tune/license with the EcuTek is going for around $750.00
(this includes unlimited amounts of dyno time to get the tune perfect)

-Chris
He's not lying... Mike is a machine. He spent from 6:30pm until 2:30am straight dyno tuning my car
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
Dyno dynamics are the lowest reading, with mustangs being pretty close but certain shops, I'm not going to name any names, have manipulated the dynos somehow to read more like a dynojet or even higher. Put it this way, a setup almost identical to this made right at 300 at dyno4mance. They had an ultimate racing tubo back with a mini muffler test pipe, a nisei uicp, a works drop in filter and a cstom tune with ecutek.

Either way, the gains are more important than the actual numbers, although when it comes to inertia based dynos like dyno jets even that's a stretch because they just run away with big numbers as power levels start getting big. For instance, on a dyno dynamics if a car is making 300 whp then on a dyno jet it'll read more like 340, but a car that makes like 700 whp on a dyno dynamics will be closer to 1000 on a dyno jet. Plus, inertia based dynos don't place load on a car while it's being tuned so it's very easy to have the car be fine on the dyno and then knock like crazy on the road once the engine sees some load. Dyno jet FTL. Anyway, congrats on the gains.

The thing is, dynojet is standard, you can't fudge the numbers, sure there is correction factor but that is obvious, etc. Dynapacks, mustang, etc can all be setup how the end user chooses. Ive been on mustang's that read high, some that read VERY low, same with dynapacks and dyno dynamics. Atleast with a dynojet your getting a consistent result. And the new ones can apply load.
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Car is looking great man!
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Nice!!

Is EDO = Works?
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Nice!!

Is EDO = Works?
works comes down to edo and performs tunes at there shop thats about it, besides selling works products as well
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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The thing is, dynojet is standard, you can't fudge the numbers, sure there is correction factor but that is obvious, etc. Dynapacks, mustang, etc can all be setup how the end user chooses. Ive been on mustang's that read high, some that read VERY low, same with dynapacks and dyno dynamics. Atleast with a dynojet your getting a consistent result. And the new ones can apply load.
Where or how do I change the set up on a Dynapack? I saw a "Setup" menu that has "Calibration" as a selection but it is password protected from Dynapack. If I knew how to do that I could show the customer the calibration so they know everything is on the up and up. Also they wouldnt have to run around getting a second dyno.

Our Dynapack currectly reads a little lower than two local Dynojets. Stock EVO Xs dyno at 245-255hp depending on what flash version they are running. Dynojets are great for making power pulls but after using a load based dyno for tuning I'll never waste my time trying to tune on a Dynojet again.

Mike W
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike W
Where or how do I change the set up on a Dynapack? I saw a "Setup" menu that has "Calibration" as a selection but it is password protected from Dynapack. If I knew how to do that I could show the customer the calibration so they know everything is on the up and up. Also they wouldnt have to run around getting a second dyno.

Our Dynapack currectly reads a little lower than two local Dynojets. Stock EVO Xs dyno at 245-255hp depending on what flash version they are running. Dynojets are great for making power pulls but after using a load based dyno for tuning I'll never waste my time trying to tune on a Dynojet again.

Mike W
Thank you again Mike for tuning my car, and getting it done as fast as you did. I'm looking forward to have you tuning my car again....after I find a turbo upgrade that will work.
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