Notices
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums Discuss the major engine management systems.

First Open Port 2 data logger released

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 20, 2009, 05:21 PM
  #46  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
xbox4414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mtz, CA
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Which one is 1 and 4? Is this the diagram for the female? (In car connector?)



And male? (OP2.0 connector?)

Old Jan 20, 2009, 05:39 PM
  #47  
Evolved Member
 
madcows's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: michigan
Posts: 662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know it's not exactly topic related, but I'll ask anyways:


Does anyone know where I can find the specifications of the mid/high level protocol/message formatting mitsubishi is using over the various CAN buses?

Edit: I presume the only high level protocol that is known is the one used at the diagnostics port.

Last edited by madcows; Jan 20, 2009 at 05:52 PM.
Old Jan 21, 2009, 09:04 AM
  #48  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
stokEd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,271
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by xbox4414
Which one is 1 and 4? Is this the diagram for the female? (In car connector?)



And male? (OP2.0 connector?)

Correct, the top image is the female and the bottom image is the male connector (OP2.0).

Last edited by stokEd; Jan 21, 2009 at 09:07 AM.
Old Jan 21, 2009, 09:08 AM
  #49  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
stokEd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,271
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Exclamation

UPDATE:

Soldiered pins 1,4 on my OP2.0 and am still unable to get v1.6 working on the Evo 10.

The logs looked the same as each of my prior attempts; I'll post them up if I still have them.

Any suggestions for troubleshooting are very welcome!

Thanks.
Old Jan 21, 2009, 09:42 AM
  #50  
Newbie
 
CLaNZeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CORNWALL, UK
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I picked up a EVO9 ECU this end today as all testing with MUT-Monitor is using a EVO6 ECU I have here.

I can confirm that it works fine with OP2.0 but also I did not have to short out Pin 1 to Pin4 as the ECU does not actually have a wire running to Pin1 of the ECU.

What proceedure are you using to try and log.

1.) Make sure Igntion is turned off and insert cable.

2.) Turn ignition switch on but do not start engine.

3.) Hit the Monitor button.

If someone else confirms it does not work then I will knock up a application that gives more logs on requests and answers.

Now I have the EVO9 ECU I also tried PCMscan that uses the OP2.0 cable and uses the OBD-II rather than MUT Protocol.

I can confirm that is VERY slow as well, if not slower than Mut-Monitor.

Is there any other programs that use the OP2.0 for logging OBD-II?
Old Jan 21, 2009, 09:55 AM
  #51  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
stokEd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,271
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by CLaNZeR
What proceedure are you using to try and log.

1.) Make sure Igntion is turned off and insert cable.

2.) Turn ignition switch on but do not start engine.

3.) Hit the Monitor button.
Thanks for the reply. I'm heading out to lunch soon and I'll give it another shot then.

Is there any other programs that use the OP2.0 for logging OBD-II?
PCMScan (general OBD-II)

ECUEdit (maybe, haven't heard back from them regarding support for the X)

ECUFlash (eventually)

This is off the top of my head, in a hurry at the moment...
Old Jan 21, 2009, 10:39 AM
  #52  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
xbox4414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mtz, CA
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Manboy
Thanks for the reply. I'm heading out to lunch soon and I'll give it another shot then.



PCMScan (general OBD-II)

ECUEdit (maybe, haven't heard back from them regarding support for the X)

ECUFlash (eventually)

This is off the top of my head, in a hurry at the moment...
Yes someone here who is in the ECUFlash beta has confirmed that he uses PCMScan for data logging using the OP2 cable, however yes it's only the basics as they don't support nor have an idea when they will support Mitsu PID's.
Old Jan 21, 2009, 10:41 AM
  #53  
Evolving Member
 
Rob@cobbtuning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 260
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I believe the EvoScan crew was trying to get the Evo X to communicate in MUT mode as well. Not sure if they ever succeeded using the first gen Tactrix cable. You may want to chat with them.

Can I ask why you are shorting pins together to access MUT mode (Mitsubishi Factory Logging/Diag)?

Cheers,
Old Jan 21, 2009, 12:29 PM
  #54  
Newbie
 
CLaNZeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CORNWALL, UK
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by xbox4414
Yes someone here who is in the ECUFlash beta has confirmed that he uses PCMScan for data logging using the OP2 cable, however yes it's only the basics as they don't support nor have an idea when they will support Mitsu PID's.

Been playing more with PCMscan and it soes only seem to support OBD-II ISO 9141-2 commands via the OP2.0 and not the MUT requests.

So seems Mut-Monitor is the first with OP2.0 to do this, so I am happy for now
Old Jan 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
  #55  
Newbie
 
CLaNZeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CORNWALL, UK
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rob@cobbtuning
Can I ask why you are shorting pins together to access MUT mode (Mitsubishi Factory Logging/Diag)?
Up until today I have only had a EVO6 Bench ECU and you must short Pins 1-4 together to get it into diagnostics mode.

When I wired up the EVO9 ECU today, I noticed it did not have this Pin1 wire from the ECU and Mut-Monitor, Evoscan etc etc worked fine without it.

Later today it was confirmed that EVO 4-6 need these pins shorted and EVO 7 upwards do not.

All a big learning experience, but getting there
Old Jan 21, 2009, 06:11 PM
  #56  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
stokEd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,271
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Exclamation

UPDATE:

Double-checked that I'd been connecting correctly and still nothing.

Regardless of how I connect and with or without the 1,4 short (which now appears to be unnecessary) I'm still getting the same 'Invalid Reply or Timeout' message.

Originally Posted by CLaNZeR
What procedure are you using to try and log.

1.) Make sure Igntion is turned off and insert cable.

2.) Turn ignition switch on but do not start engine.

3.) Hit the Monitor button.
This is the procedure I've been following; I've tried other variations to see if it changed anything without any luck.

If someone else confirms it does not work then I will knock up a application that gives more logs on requests and answers.
I'll see if I can get someone else with a OP2.0 cable to give it a shot.
Old Jan 21, 2009, 06:24 PM
  #57  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
xbox4414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mtz, CA
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I can confirm that it DOES NOT WORK with OP2. I just went out after lowering the car on the lift just enough to reach the cable and OBD-ii port. And same problem:

Opening Com Port 4
Started 6:17:20 PM 1/21/2009
Sending 5 Baud Init

Changing to 15625 Baud

Connected! 6:17:20 PM 1/21/2009

Starting to Monitor
Invalid Reply or Timeout

Disconnected
Stopped 6:17:26 PM 1/21/2009
Old Jan 25, 2009, 06:47 PM
  #58  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
xbox4414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mtz, CA
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Any updates?
Old Jan 25, 2009, 08:21 PM
  #59  
SiC
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
SiC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kanagawa, Japan
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by xbox4414
Any updates?
I tried 1.7 with the OP2.0 on my X and I had the same results as you. It doesn't seem like the X is a priority right now, the developer seems like he is focusing on previous Evos.
Old Jan 25, 2009, 08:29 PM
  #60  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
xbox4414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mtz, CA
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Man that makes me sad... Looks like no one really cares about Evo X data logging. EvoScan is meh on Evo X support. Why is development on Evo X something people don't care about? I mean when future Evo's come out is it gonna revert back to the old system? We need to stop catering to past technology and help on working current and future builds...


Quick Reply: First Open Port 2 data logger released



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:41 PM.