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That is bull****...I know for a fact that there is no way to detect a flash if it is returned to stock maps properly! Ect-tek im 100% sure! Ecuflash im 99% sure correct me if im wrong on the ecuflash, will never happen. It sounds like they were bluffing or your tuner F*cked you.
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there buying it back because the motor blew? Like some kind of lemon law ting or something?Originally Posted by ImsoevoX
The dealer is buying it back
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Do I even want to ask how that kind of loss is working out?Originally Posted by ImsoevoX
The dealer is buying it back
It's cheaper to get a new evo versus putting in a new motor...they are saying 13k for the motor..not including labor..so..I might as well buy a new one with a warranty..lol..it actually not that bad price wise..but I want/ know I will need, a tune..but I don't want that darn CVN number to change..
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the dealer is full of ****. I reflash evos all the time to stock for dealer work an NEVER had a problem... theres somthing fishy there bro.
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specialy Xs all stock pushing over 330... no problems.
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so are you saying you put the intake on then got a tune? or you got a tune then put the intake on without retuning it? Originally Posted by ImsoevoX
well the car was running lean, and I replaced the MAF. The problem went away and I didn't have any issues. I bought an o2 Wideband and installed it just to make sure my AFR's were where they were suppose to be. The AFr's where fine. So since I made another appointment to get custom tuned, I thought it might be a good idea to go ahead and throw on the intake..I think there is where I made my mistake. I think since the intake leans the car out it might have done it a little too much..the internal engine damamge was caused because of a lean condition, so...that's how it happened. Running an intake without a tune can be very very dangerous. So, I plan on leaving this car stock...but I want to know if I can get flashed without the CVN being changed...while I love the idea of the Cobb AP, I think it's limited compared to a custom tune. However, with the AP I heard it doesn 't change the CVN, which is awesome. But, custom dyno tunes can max out everything, giving better results...idk..I am hoping there is some sort of software that can provide a tune..yet be undetectedable by mitsu...
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Did you still owe $ on the other X (with the blown motor)? if you don't mind me asking.Originally Posted by ImsoevoX
The dealer is buying it back
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btw, I pm'd chris at AMS about the intake and he states:
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From Chris:
I have had one or two problems with this on certain cars.
Basically, because the intake is so large compaired to the factory one that the fuel trims go out of wack for closed loop.
A flash would fix this for sure, because i can remap the lower portions of the maf scaling.
Other than that, there is no fix, except to put the stock intake on. It appears as though some cars are having to add fuel from the factory and this exacerbates the situation. This is not a problem for full throttle use, and does not cause any damage, but will set a check engine light unless flashed.
-chris
From Chris:
I have had one or two problems with this on certain cars.
Basically, because the intake is so large compaired to the factory one that the fuel trims go out of wack for closed loop.
A flash would fix this for sure, because i can remap the lower portions of the maf scaling.
Other than that, there is no fix, except to put the stock intake on. It appears as though some cars are having to add fuel from the factory and this exacerbates the situation. This is not a problem for full throttle use, and does not cause any damage, but will set a check engine light unless flashed.
-chris
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most likely it wasn't flashed back to stock. cvn should have been the same as long as the maps have same values.Originally Posted by crewdawg130
the dealer is full of ****. I reflash evos all the time to stock for dealer work an NEVER had a problem... theres somthing fishy there bro.
as long as you change any value on any map, your cvn changes. you really should have a stock map handy and make sure it's flashed back to stock if it happens again (i hope it doesn't).
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13K!!!?!?!??! That seems a bit steep, the VIII complete engine is only 8K, I would assume even if the block was destroyed that something would be intact. For 13k you can get an RB26DETT with the front clip and tranny, so I find it difficult to believe that the 4B11 is that much.
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Umm how is 13k not cheaper than a new evo? If the dealership builds the motor then the motor they build will come with a warranty.Originally Posted by ImsoevoX
It's cheaper to get a new evo versus putting in a new motor...they are saying 13k for the motor..not including labor..so..I might as well buy a new one with a warranty..lol..it actually not that bad price wise..but I want/ know I will need, a tune..but I don't want that darn CVN number to change..
If it was mine I would have one hell of a motor built for 13k buy a reputable builder. I am sure one of the vendors on here could do you up a real nice setup for that price but that is just my .02
Last option for me would be to find one out of a salvage car and give a big ole F U to the dealership. Why spend more money with them if they dont help you?
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I was kinda thinking the same thing..I tried to b.s. my way out of it..but really couldn't considering I knew the thing had been flashed..But they may have dove deeper b/c I was coming in for an engine..they didn't want to have to shell out money for that..Originally Posted by crewdawg130
the dealer is full of ****. I reflash evos all the time to stock for dealer work an NEVER had a problem... theres somthing fishy there bro.
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They just said the district rep came in and looked at the ECU..saw the CVN didn't match..with mitsu stuff..and voided out my warranty..they completely voided the powertrain warranty..and even if I put a brand new motor in the car..my power train would have still been voided. So I thought it was be less of a headache to start fresh. The GM of the store offered to buy it back and sell me a new one..the cost of that was cheaper considering what I owed on the car..combined with the cost of an engine and labor..so yeah..basically I am paying the same amount either way..but now I'll have a new car to start over with...so it will be a learning experience..but I am really afraid to get flashed...Originally Posted by Turbo Ghost
Did the dealership show proof that the CVN number has been changed?
