should i stick with current EcuFlash or get protuned AP?
Agreed.
You sure? He can't get your car to run right. That's a good sign it's time to look elsewhere. It's a hard reality to face, especially after dropping a few hundred on a tune, but the same thing happened to me and in the end I couldn't be happier. Money spent, but lesson learned.
i have a harman motive intake because of the dryflow filter, and also my friend had it on his X MR and was great. its a copy of ams's intake for half the price. unfortunately im the only one aaron has tuned with that intake. he told me every X they've tuned had either an ETS or AEM intake.
reason i also put it here is cuz the quality of the info is going way down on evoxforums. this site is bigger and usually quicker to get info even though i hate all the 8/9 owners who hate on me for having a heavy car or a car built of a chyrsler platform
There were posts in this thread that should not have been deleted.
In its prior (edited) state read like a Cobb commercial, which is NOT the intention of this site at all. The point of this site is to allow the Evo community at large to discuss their cars, opinions on different products, etc. I personally have restored the deleted posts and apologize for their removal.
The correct answer to your question is both tools are fine and would produce identical results assuming they had the same tuner. The thing that would be different is the abilities/strategies of different tuners.
Since we are being less than shy about voicing opinions in this thread, I'll do the same: I prefer Ecuflash to AP substantially. For the cost of an AP, you can buy a decent laptop and a Tactrix cable. And you get the functionality of a laptop to do other things. If you already have a laptop, Ecuflash is $450 cheaper. Ecuflash is also the most widely used reflashing solution by Evo tuners across the country, and still supports the older (VIII and IX cars) as well. So finding someone that can tune your car should not be difficult. You can see and have open access to all maps yourself, learn about the maps in the car, and see multiple maps in an exploded view. You have the support of a large community of Ecuflash users who are constantly working to make new features available to the end user. Since R&D is in the hands of so many people, support will only continue to increase.
My advice to everyone who is a self tuner or wants to learn the most about the ECU in this car is to use Ecuflash.
My advice to anyone who has very minimal computer ability and is afraid of hurting their own car is to use AP shelf maps, because there are many and they are very safe.
My advice to anyone who wants their car custom tuned is to support a qualified shop in your area, and use whatever that tuner is most comfortable with.
If any of you X owners are getting heckled by VIII/IX owners, PM me directly. We have taken measures to ensure this has stopped.
Last edited by Noize; Feb 7, 2011 at 11:42 AM.
Good advise Noize, thank you. As an owner of an RA with the SST, and a Portland area resident, I am weighing my options between Tim and Aaron and the cost between AP and getting a Tactrix cable.
Thanks for the good discussion.
Is it possible to read the map from another AP to compare to your Intake issue? Or maybe someone has a map with the same intake?
Thanks for the good discussion.
Is it possible to read the map from another AP to compare to your Intake issue? Or maybe someone has a map with the same intake?
So the P0171 is a silly problem and I didnt realise it wanted as much MAF scaling on it to start with. I know how to tune for an intake
This is the first one of any car we have done that was this particular about idle and light cruise fueling.
I will admit there are things about the SST that I do not know which I think (from research) isnt abnormal even at this point. While I dont seem to have any problems with the torque limit overall in a GSR the MR has a torque limit that seems to come into play around 338 ft lbs. This is on another car but I am sure it applies to even one that is making 300 ft lbs.
I have used an AP and there are no additional torque control tables there. The interface is a little more raw actually and while its probably fine if you are comfortable with it, its not as intuitive or user friendly as ECUflash.
Aaron
This is the first one of any car we have done that was this particular about idle and light cruise fueling.I will admit there are things about the SST that I do not know which I think (from research) isnt abnormal even at this point. While I dont seem to have any problems with the torque limit overall in a GSR the MR has a torque limit that seems to come into play around 338 ft lbs. This is on another car but I am sure it applies to even one that is making 300 ft lbs.
I have used an AP and there are no additional torque control tables there. The interface is a little more raw actually and while its probably fine if you are comfortable with it, its not as intuitive or user friendly as ECUflash.
Aaron









