Turbotrix X- 104whp over stock so far...
Feb 16, 2008, 11:47 AM
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I just checked the dyno runs in SAE instead of uncorrected. We picked up 107whp in uncorrected. I will have Jeff post the graph on Monday. Also, the car baselined 224.92whp and 223.92 whp. We were accused in another thread of starting with a really low baseline to get our "inflated" bolt on numbers. It is what it is guys. We baselined the car and documented our numbers for all our stages. 104whp gain in unccorected and 107whp gain in SAE.
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I think the question is what was the average baseline. From what I hear, the car continues to make more power when you do consistent runs back-to-back. This would indicate that the car is averaging MORE than 225whp. So how many runs did you do on the dyno before you came to a number? And how long did you rest in between dyno pulls with the mods?
One pull would indeed be a fluke as opposed to realworld scenarios. Surely you see the logic in this.
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Feb 16, 2008, 12:27 PM
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WHO CARES ABOUT A NUMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!
All they are trying to do is show what kinds of gains you can expect from a few mods. Some cars will make that, some won't. It doesn't really make one car or product better/worse than the other.
They just want to show what kind of power the X is making with just a few mods. And so far is seems pretty impressive.
Nice work guys!
All they are trying to do is show what kinds of gains you can expect from a few mods. Some cars will make that, some won't. It doesn't really make one car or product better/worse than the other.
They just want to show what kind of power the X is making with just a few mods. And so far is seems pretty impressive.
Nice work guys!
Feb 16, 2008, 12:36 PM
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^+1, well said.
This is so childish. Make your parts. Sale them. Let the consumer choose. Both your products will sale. Both are extremely respected around these parts.
It's the fanboys for each Tuner causing these arguments.
This is so childish. Make your parts. Sale them. Let the consumer choose. Both your products will sale. Both are extremely respected around these parts.
It's the fanboys for each Tuner causing these arguments.
Feb 17, 2008, 05:45 PM
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Request for the Turbo Trix guys ... if you are going to post uncorrected dyno charts, could you please also post the air temperature and humidity? (standard feature for DynoJet software) At least that way we can interpolate what the power gains are, taking temp and humidity into account.
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Using SAE corrected on a FI car is absolutely worthless. The SAE correction takes into consideration the air temp(inloet temp), barometric pressure, and humidity. Well when you compress air you increase the temp and then we cool it down with the intercooler, thus making the air temp the dyno reads worthless. Barometric pressure is worthless as well because, well we are pressurizing the air going into the engine. SAE correction is meant for NA cars not for FI cars.
One way to really cheat the SAE correction is spraying water on the IC with fans, you can get the air temps going into the TB to be below ambient temps that way and the dyno is reading say 70* and you have cooled them way lower.
Feb 17, 2008, 11:31 PM
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Using SAE corrected on a FI car is absolutely worthless. The SAE correction takes into consideration the air temp(inloet temp), barometric pressure, and humidity. Well when you compress air you increase the temp and then we cool it down with the intercooler, thus making the air temp the dyno reads worthless. Barometric pressure is worthless as well because, well we are pressurizing the air going into the engine. SAE correction is meant for NA cars not for FI cars.
One way to really cheat the SAE correction is spraying water on the IC with fans, you can get the air temps going into the TB to be below ambient temps that way and the dyno is reading say 70* and you have cooled them way lower.
One way to really cheat the SAE correction is spraying water on the IC with fans, you can get the air temps going into the TB to be below ambient temps that way and the dyno is reading say 70* and you have cooled them way lower.
Humidity still effects turbo cars just like any other car.
Barometric pressure is the only issue when using SAE correction factors for turbo cars. Turbo cars do not lose as much HP to altitude as NA and SC cars because they make up for the loss of air density by spinning the turbo faster. They lose a little HP to the extra work it takes to get the pressure the same as it would be at sea level but not as much as SAE correction factors give you.
AMS is at about 700ft (fairly close to sea level) so the correction is fairly accurate for us.
