You guys aren't the only ones.
Watch this video review of the GSR from cars.com
watch from the 1:40 mark, he talks about this same issue of lack of power down low.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5fk0vywwkM

 

Yup, the X has more turbo lag than the STi. I had an 04 STi and I had no problems off the line. I still struggle a little with the X and need to rev it up higher to prevent the bog.

There are only 2 things that still bother me about the X. One is the bogging and the other is the notchy/grinding shifter.

 

Wow i guess all my cars like 5 or 6 for the pats 9 years have been manual so i guess i am talking out of my ***(by the way i have never burn or had to replace a clutch, even on the Nissan Pulzar that i learn to drive manual with).

On the SRT i could use just the clutch without gas and get it going, i haven't try it on the Evo i know is not the same car, but the way it acts sometimes i dont think it would do it, it would probably died. If you haven't had the problem you don't know what some of us are talking about. If you dont rev a bit and hold a clutch a bit before release it will bog down and it is slow to pick up.

 

I am the clutch master and the X is a little odd but you can definitely release the clutch with no gas and if you are careful it won't jerk or anything it will move at idle speed like an automatic. Do this on a flat ground and not on a incline.

 

Guys, take it easy. My comments weren't meant to trash anyone. I was just trying to help. I did get really confused when someone brought the Evo IX comparison into the mix. They claimed there was no power loss on the IX. In my experience of owning an VIII for three years, it was no different than the X in the fact that the clutch cannot be let go quickly. I think the X is a vast improvement in that regard. It's much easier to get the technique down on the X than it was on the VIII.

 

I referenced the IX as a comparrison. When I test drove it I could release the clutch with no throttle and it took off fine, and if I hit the throttle after release, the damn thing took off. Same with my STi.

The X, or my X at least, if I try this there's no power what so ever and it takes approx 2-3 seconds after hitting the throttle before it actually develops some power.

Granted, again as I've said, if I float the clutch theres no lack of power. It just seems odd to me that we HAVE to float the clutch to get power. But again, if that's what the X wants, that's fine. I just didn't understand why it was like that.

 

^Okay, I understand what you're saying... Then maybe it has to do with the e throttle on our cars. Do Subbie's still use a cable or are they drive by wire? The X of course is the first evo without a cable.

 

They are DBW.

 

What do you mean by "float"? Slipping the clutch? The only time that I've heard the term "floating the clutch" is when someone refers to shifting without using the clutch. And I hope your not attempting to do that...

Anyhow, I have been driving manuals for 23 years and have never owned an auto for my personal car. I don't notice anything peculiar about getting the X to move off of the line in a normal "non-launching" fashion. I have driven big inch V8's, NA inline 4's, turbo 4s, straight 6's, V6's, V-twins, AWD, 4WD, 2WD, 1WD, bicycles, my wife up the wall...basically a lot of different crap and I don't feel anything substantially different in getting the Evo moving than any of those. Are you sure that's its just not something with the clutch being fresh as compared to your other cars?

 

That's exactly the same way I felt. I'm real curious to see what the deal is. I only had experience with Evo's as far as manual's go, so it's good to know someone with vast experience with manuals doesn't have any issues. It just must be the result of 2.0, the AWD, and the lag with the 12cm^2 turbine housing. I have all the power I need even if I bog the car. I was just curious what the SRT4 and the STI and the IX felt like. I owned a VIII for three years and I know it had even less torque down low than the X.

 

Maybe I'll be able to drive stick as well as the rest of you some time soon. One can only hope.

I passed my driving test when I was 17 in a manual car and have only owned 2 automatics in my life time. I actually passed my test in a Ford Fiesta 1.1. Want to talk about a car with no low end torque? That car had no torque at ANY part of the rev range. Did I mention that was 21 years ago?

My X is my 3rd Evo since 2003. For all of you saying there is no difference: you're wrong. Maybe it varies from car to car but the clutch on my car is horrible and the tune is even worse. The combination of the two means that I have to RIDE the clutch, not slip, to get away from the line without bogging. It bogs so bad it's almost embarrassing. If I try to take off with no gas it will stall. Hell, it stalls sometimes when I have the clutch in anyway. Neither of my two previous VIIIs did this. I don't think it has anything to do with the DBW or the clutch (even though the clutch still stinks whenever I get on the gas) but is to do with the tune. My car bucks bad in the upper RPMs and stalls for no reason occasionally yet the Mitsu dealer "can't recreate the issue." If I can ever get the stealership to reflash the car then I'll report back and let people know if it really is the tune.

Oh, and did I mention that I've been living with this $hit since early February? .

 

^ Mine too was much worse before I had the reflash, so I feel your pain there. If you can get it to pop the CEL and get them to reflash it, you will find it's much better.

By floating I meant slipping, old tomato tAmato thing

I will also say, I think alot of the issues have to do with the fact that there's so many different problems happening to different people depending on when the car was manufactured.

Some have the Notchy tranny (I do), some have the ECU issues (I did), some had the leaking Timing Belt covers (Dont), Staples falling out of the seats (I do). Just a host of different issues that could contribute to a problem with one X and not another X.

I think it's safe too say that there are so many variables to each of our X's as seen by the other threads, that's it's hard to pinpoint anything to wether it's driver error, or just simply that particular car.

 

Launch Control

 

This thread is about normal driving, not launching, but thanks

 

My IX and now the X have the same symptoms, but I refuse to let it float/slip. Guess that is why my IX factory clutch lasted 70k miles, even with several road course days under its belt in the first year. Went through brake pads and tires left and right, but not the clutch.

My previous cars; S2000, G35 coupe, STI, and 03' Cobra, all six speed manuals didn't have the slow start issue like both my EVO's. I don't mind all the traffic taking off in front of me until 20mph or so....

Apologies for reviving an old thread.