Bare with me guy's....Is it just me or is there *NO* power off the line (normal driving not launch) unless you float the clutch a bit?

I drive a 06 Sti, bought the X for the wife, and it just seems our X dies off the line unless I float the clutch. One of the main reasons I bought my Sti over the IX was because the IX fealt so jerky (powerful) with no throttle at all, and our X seems to be the total opposite.

Is this just me, a problem with the car, or is this normal?

 

ASC still on

 

OMG is that what it is, i hate that. You have to careful, if you are too gentle is almost like the car will bog, mitsu should do something about this. It has been a few times that traffic has ran up to me when coming out of an interception because the car would bog down and would be slow to pick up I thought it was the stupid pill thing on the clutch.

 

There is plenty of power available on a regular take off.

However, if you miss it, you'll bog down. Unfortunately, it is very easy to do. Just find a parking lot or something and try it a number of times. It doesn't take long to figure out exactly how to work the clutch.

 

+ 1 I totally agree. In fact, I think the X has more power down low than my VIII did. I can start in 2nd on the X and still have no issues. I do it regularly.

 

+1 Any car will bog and seem slow off the line if you let the clutch out too quick

 

BS.

Owned and SRT4 for two years, never had this issue. Either the clutch is crap or something else. Also owned a 03 Sentra SpecV, 2000 SI and 88 Pulsar and guess what, never had this issue. I was thinking it was because of the AWD system putting extra strain on the motor. But if the STI doesn't do it, well i guess is not that.

 

The reason behind all of this is that fact that the Evo is a 2.0 and has AWD. I seriously don't understand where you guys are having issues. If you don't know how to drive a manual and you bog the car then of course there will be a lack of power right away. But even when I bog the car starting in 1st I don't have any issues getting the car to accelerate. The only time there is a lack of power is like I said, when I start the car in 2nd and there is a slight lag around 1000 rpms or so. But this of course is driver error. I can start the car off the line in 2nd and get it high enough in the rpm range to be perfectly fine. It just requires a slow release of the clutch while giving it a little extra gas. I suggest you guys try that.

Our vehicles have absolutely no low end torque until the turbo starts spooling. AWD and small displacement are the culprits. Slip the clutch a little more and you'll have ZERO issues.

 

/\ I mostly agree. I have owned a srt4 also and ALWAYS sliped the clutch on launches or it would bog down slightly.

I thought most people with maunals slip the clutch on a hard launch to control power to the wheels while maintaing rpm to stay in the powerband without smoking the tires.

 

Sigh I love the learn how to drive comments. I've been driving manuals all my life, I have a Class A CDL, I know how to drive. Now if this car/clutch has a particular method about it that's fine.

I simply asked because I've never experienced the bog with normal clutch release on any other manual I've ever driven, and with the swath of issues surrounding the retunes, tranny issues etc I just wondered if there was some other issue other than a picky clutch.

A few people mentioned the ASC, is that really a factor or a guess? Remember I'm talking about normal driving NOT a launch.

Thanks!

 

I disagree, None of the Subaru's I've ever owned, 2.0 or 2.5 liters have had this problem. But then again it's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru

And if you read my first post, I said "it dies UNLESS I float the clutch." I was just asking if that's what was needed for this Evo.

 

I feel like I have this problem too (and I came from a torqueless DC5). Disabling ASC helps a little bit

 

Its a guess .. ASC kicks in when you have uneven acceleration or wheel slippage .. so if you don't have those.. it's not ASC ..

The Ethrottle is your most probable culprit .. and yes you're rite .. you need to float/slip the clutch a little to let the engine pick up .. otherwise it bogs ..

 

It's not really a "learn to drive" thing. It's a "learn to change your driving habits" to adjust for the low displacement + AWD. It wasn't an insult!

 

Gotcha. I appologize, I didn't mean to come off as uptight.

To clarify if I slip the clutch a bit the car has no problems at all with acceleration. I was just wondering if this was the standard method for the X or if there was another factor.

As far as LD AWD all I have to compare too is my Subaru's which is comparing apples to oranges. I base my question off driving the IX when I bought my STi, which I did not have to slip the clutch at all. Hence my concern on wether there was yet another issue with my X, or if it was just one of those things.