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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:53 AM
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I think the new 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe has 4B11 block too.?
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Seoul/Stuttgart/Tokyo - DaimlerChrysler AG, Hyundai Motor Company, and Mitsubishi Motors Corporation announced the formation of a joint venture company for the design, development, and engineering of a new family of in-line four cylinder gasoline engines. Global Engine Alliance L.L.C. will jointly develop these engines through the combined resources of all three companies. The engines will be used in future generations of vehicles of the Chrysler Group, Mitsubishi Motors, and Hyundai Motor.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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How about the 2.4 4B12 block? Will it fit the 4B11? I mean if somebody wants to stroke a 4B11 to a 2.3 or/2.4 will the 4B12 block be a good donor? Will it be stronger than a 4B11?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by hybridevo
How about the 2.4 4B12 block? Will it fit the 4B11? I mean if somebody wants to stroke a 4B11 to a 2.3 or/2.4 will the 4B12 block be a good donor? Will it be stronger than a 4B11?
No it will not be stronger. because the Mitsubishi, stated the 4B11T block is reinforced for high boost application. So it is aluminum as a 4B12 , but different strength.
hell the 4B11 and the 4B11T according to the Mitsubishi tech video guide is 90% different engine.
So how close the 4b12 can be to the 4B11T in strenght?

check it from 1.20 after the video starts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RoxR...ad.php?p=16019

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Top of the art engineering..great job guys !!
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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AMS, could you guys explain to me the pros and cons of the various sleeving designs? Namely, TurboTrix is doing a motor build and sleeved the block, but did it differently than you guys. They machined the tabs almost all the way down and stuffed the sleeves almost flush with the block (minus the asymetrical shapes of the coolant channels around the sleeves, if that makes sense). Which design is better? Can you go over the pros and cons of these two designs? Thanks.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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A little off topic

It's nice to get all that power out of the Engine but what about the drivetrain what will it handle .
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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ok, I am FAR from being any sort of expert, so I guess this would be more of a question than a comment, but to those who are questioning the strength of aluminum vs. iron, doesn't how balanced the engine internals are have a lot more to do with how fast the engine may have problems instead of what the block itself is made from?

And a side question to the AMS guys.. what do you all think of the cryo treating process? I don't see many people talk about it with engines on here. I have however read some articles claiming it really increases the strength and can help make a motor " bulletproof " as well.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
AMS, could you guys explain to me the pros and cons of the various sleeving designs? Namely, TurboTrix is doing a motor build and sleeved the block, but did it differently than you guys. They machined the tabs almost all the way down and stuffed the sleeves almost flush with the block (minus the asymetrical shapes of the coolant channels around the sleeves, if that makes sense). Which design is better? Can you go over the pros and cons of these two designs? Thanks.
I was actually wondering about this also.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Any further progress on this? Anyone tested or pushed these sleeved blocks to the limit?
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Wow, wake up a dead thread yeah?

ETS did some serious work with a stock block.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Yeah if the sleeved block is pushed how far could you push it sat a fully built 6765 turbo on this block?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 03:37 AM
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Just an idea....

Have you thought about Nikasil coating the sleeves?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikasil
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