My New CBE Drones. Can it be fixed?
My New CBE Drones. Can it be fixed?
First, my definition of "drone" is the cabin vibration/resonance with the exhaust note. Is this correct? Let me assume it is for now.
So I got Perrin CBE after researching various internet Evo sites. I was very disappointed that the inside of car drones. If I accelerate normally, I can hear cabin vibration sound between 2,250 to 3,500 rpm. This is very annoying.
I had the performance shop that installed the Perrin CBE double check the bolt tighteness, per Perrin's suggestion. But it still drones.
Can it be fixed? Any pointer will be greatly appreciated.
So I got Perrin CBE after researching various internet Evo sites. I was very disappointed that the inside of car drones. If I accelerate normally, I can hear cabin vibration sound between 2,250 to 3,500 rpm. This is very annoying.
I had the performance shop that installed the Perrin CBE double check the bolt tighteness, per Perrin's suggestion. But it still drones.
Can it be fixed? Any pointer will be greatly appreciated.
My Perrin TBE has a very small amout of drone between 70-80mph, but its so mellow that it doesn't bother me or my wife. My wife is very picky about it too. I'm sorry to read that you don't like the sound. A resonator will probebly help, a good muffler or performance shop can just weld it in.
Like others have said a Resonator helps quite a bit. After wrapping my headers, turbo, and downpipe I toned down quite a bit of noise coming from my engine bay area as as well and now the sound is mostly coming from the rear of the car. An upgraded front motor mount can also amplify things if the material is really stiff like the AMS Race motor mount.
yea droning is soo annoying. I did a lot of research before purchasing a catback. I made sure its not too loud and that it doesnt drone.
A resonator will help make the exhaust quieter hopefully it will eliminate the drone.
A resonator will help make the exhaust quieter hopefully it will eliminate the drone.
it's, in short, a sound neutralizer. the shape and design of the resonator affects how much noise it can dampen and neutralize. oval type resonators work the best, but since we have the drive shaft down there, it's best to go with bottle type resonators.
Last edited by EndlessRed; Jul 10, 2009 at 02:35 PM.
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This is interesting. I just installed my Perrin CBE exhaust yesterday afternoon and I'm not experiencing any major drone. It's a little louder inside the car, but that's to be expected compared to stock. You might want to have the installer check everything over because you shouldn't have any vibration in the car from the exhaust.
I did the install myself, and I'm not expert by any means, and I'm not having any problems.
I did the install myself, and I'm not expert by any means, and I'm not having any problems.
Weird. My Perrin exhaust doesn't drone very much at all, my wife actually commented that it wasn't louder than the stock exhaust at cruise. The stock exhaust had as much drone in my car.
If you've had it on for awhile, take a look under the car and see if any of the connections are leaking. If the shop was sloppy, they may have incorrectly tightened the v-band clamps... mine were a little tricky to get lined up the right time.
If you've had it on for awhile, take a look under the car and see if any of the connections are leaking. If the shop was sloppy, they may have incorrectly tightened the v-band clamps... mine were a little tricky to get lined up the right time.
I have taken my MR back to the performance shop twice and had two different people double check the tightness of the bolts and clamps. There are only two bolts and two clamps to check.
The folks at Perrin told me that my Evo is the first one that has this issue. Very odd!
I am wondering if the additional sound insulation of the MR package happens to resonate with Perrin's exhaust note. I notice the Perrin CBE has a deeper exhaust note than stock. MR has additional 18lbs of insulation from my reading. Well, just my hypothesis...
The folks at Perrin told me that my Evo is the first one that has this issue. Very odd!
I am wondering if the additional sound insulation of the MR package happens to resonate with Perrin's exhaust note. I notice the Perrin CBE has a deeper exhaust note than stock. MR has additional 18lbs of insulation from my reading. Well, just my hypothesis...
Like others have said a Resonator helps quite a bit. After wrapping my headers, turbo, and downpipe I toned down quite a bit of noise coming from my engine bay area as as well and now the sound is mostly coming from the rear of the car. An upgraded front motor mount can also amplify things if the material is really stiff like the AMS Race motor mount.
i have a test pipe and the perrin cbe on my gsr and I only experience very slight droning at around 1400-1700rpm. It isn't that bad and only happens when the car is warming up so it doesn't bother me.
Wrapping is good, but it causes problems in the winter and wet areas, where it traps the water and salt underneath the wrap where it slowly destroys the piping from inside out. Better to have them ceramic coated. Also wrap will soak up any liquid, i.e. oils which will trap in the fibers, not so good.
Better suited for race applications, where exposure to the elements is less than daily experience.
Better suited for race applications, where exposure to the elements is less than daily experience.
Wrapping is good, but it causes problems in the winter and wet areas, where it traps the water and salt underneath the wrap where it slowly destroys the piping from inside out. Better to have them ceramic coated. Also wrap will soak up any liquid, i.e. oils which will trap in the fibers, not so good.
Better suited for race applications, where exposure to the elements is less than daily experience.
Better suited for race applications, where exposure to the elements is less than daily experience.


