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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by elementalcode
Whats the eta of this bad boy?

hp range be nice to
47-48 lbs/min = 470-480 bhp.

~400whp turbo.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveGSR
47-48 lbs/min = 470-480 bhp.

~400whp turbo.
On pump that is....the stocker is a 400whp on better fuel.
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Verde!!!
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
We are also developing a 47-48 lbs/min variant as we speak

cb
thank god

I was leaning towards a Green since I didn't really like the spool on the BBX...

But now I am definitely going to hold on...
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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I love my green... Spools fast and pulls hard all the way to 7500 rpm
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by weebles
I love my green... Spools fast and pulls hard all the way to 7500 rpm
Can you compare the green to the stock turbo when it comes to spool?
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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I would say go for the RED since you always gonna want more powwa. But no in all seriousness the green is very nice.
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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That Green graph from Cobb looks retched compared to the stock turbo.
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sspaladin28
That Green graph from Cobb looks retched compared to the stock turbo.
You did notice the different fuels, right? E85 spools faster than pump since there is more exhaust. Having a Green on pump spool nearly as well as the stock turbo on E85 seems like a bit of a feat to me.

I'd still like to see a Green on E85.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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Here is a Evo 10 with a HTA FPgreen / Kelford 214a cams / 3 port boost solenoid I have been tuning.

3rd gear, Evo 10 MR - 93 oct



And straight raw data for the above plot:

Code:
RPM	PSIG
2421.88	3.67046
2382.81	4.25087
2484.38	4.58945
2484.38	5.07312
2558.59	5.65353
2597.66	6.13721
2609.38	6.76598
2703.13	7.4915
2730.47	8.31374
2808.59	9.13599
2824.22	10.1517
2929.69	11.3125
2988.28	12.5701
3027.34	14.2629
3148.44	16.0525
3222.66	18.0356
3300.78	20.1638
3382.81	22.0017
3507.81	23.2593
3566.41	24.1299
3734.38	24.0815
3781.25	24.4685
3914.06	24.7587
4007.81	24.7587
4152.34	24.7103
4238.28	25.3391
4335.94	25.194
4468.75	25.4358
4550.78	25.6293
4683.59	25.4358
4812.5	25.4358
4902.34	25.5326
5019.53	25.4358
5132.81	25.2907
5234.38	25.0005
5375	25.1456
5476.56	24.9038
5570.31	25.1456
5691.41	24.9522
5820.31	25.0005
5894.53	25.0973
6027.34	25.0005
6132.81	25.0489
6214.84	24.9522
6335.94	24.9522
6437.5	24.9038
6523.44	24.7103
6632.81	24.7587
6726.56	24.7103
6832.03	24.7103
6929.69	24.662
7023.44	24.6136
7109.38	24.7587
7226.56	24.5652
7308.59	24.4201
7402.34	24.0815
7484.38	24.0815
7574.22	23.5979
7652.34	23.4528
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Wow, hard to imagine better spool than that on 93 octane....I wonder if the BBX can spool the same or faster yet have more top end.

14.2629 psi at 3027.34 is really good spool...

Bryan, how much did the cams play into getting this to spool this way? Meaning would the stock cams have spooled the same and most likely dropped off on the top end?
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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i just ordered the fp green, kelford cams myself hopefully i should have the stuff up and tuned in like two weeks ill keep you guys posted
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by revolution12
i just ordered the fp green, kelford cams myself hopefully i should have the stuff up and tuned in like two weeks ill keep you guys posted
looking forward hearing results.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Wow, hard to imagine better spool than that on 93 octane....I wonder if the BBX can spool the same or faster yet have more top end.

14.2629 psi at 3027.34 is really good spool...

Bryan, how much did the cams play into getting this to spool this way? Meaning would the stock cams have spooled the same and most likely dropped off on the top end?
The boost plot shown in bryans post is from my car...

I have a friend running a very similar setup on his MR (FP Green)... However he is using stock cams has a HFC with meth where as I run a testpipe and have the kelford 214a on 93...

@ 3070rpm he has 10.2 psi

@ 3500rpm he has 22 psi
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by weebles
The boost plot shown in bryans post is from my car...

I have a friend running a very similar setup on his MR (FP Green)... However he is using stock cams has a HFC with meth where as I run a testpipe and have the kelford 214a on 93...

@ 3070rpm he has 10.2 psi

@ 3500rpm he has 22 psi
you mean this car ??
Yes .. he definitely need cams and testpipe

Code:
RPM	Boost
2121.09	1.20372
2167.97	1.78413
2253.91	2.26781
2253.91	2.26781
2320.31	2.89658
2320.31	2.89658
2394.53	3.42863
2394.53	3.42863
2472.66	4.15414
2472.66	4.15414
2558.59	4.68618
2558.59	4.68618
2636.72	5.60516
2636.72	5.60516
2726.56	6.62088
2726.56	6.62088
2820.31	7.9268
2820.31	7.9268
2941.41	9.76477
2941.41	9.76477
3054.69	12.2315
3054.69	12.2315
3210.94	15.3754
3210.94	15.3754
3367.19	19.7768
3367.19	19.7768
3488.28	24.9038
3488.28	24.9038
3710.94	28.1928
3710.94	28.1928
3968.75	28.8699
3968.75	28.8699
4179.69	29.4503
4179.69	29.4503
4441.41	29.6438
4441.41	29.6438
4660.16	29.3536
4660.16	29.3536
4867.19	29.3052
4867.19	29.3052
5085.94	28.9667
5085.94	28.9667
5289.06	28.8216
5289.06	28.8216
5476.56	28.9667
5476.56	28.9667
5683.59	28.9183
5683.59	28.9183
5878.91	28.2895
5878.91	28.2895
6054.69	27.9026
6054.69	27.9026
6238.28	27.6124
6238.28	27.6124
6460.94	26.9836
6460.94	26.9836
6636.72	26.5967
6636.72	26.5967
6781.25	26.1614
6781.25	26.1614
6976.56	25.6777
6976.56	25.6777
7121.09	24.9038
7121.09	24.9038
7265.63	24.1299
7265.63	24.1299
7441.41	23.4528
7441.41	23.4528
7574.22	22.9691
7574.22	22.9691
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