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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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I did a test using the cobb port and found that the stock evo x bov does not hold PSI very well through the rev range.
From 3400 rpm I hit max boost in 3500 alt and temp 106 of 23PSI.
Then as I climbed in revs the PSI started to drop hard from 23 to 21at 4100RPM to 19psi at 6000 RPM then at 17psi from 6900RPM to redline.
I installed the Go Fast Bits Stealth FX bov then set the spring 2 full turns and set it to 30% vent - 70% rec and had a go.
Started to pick up boost a lot faster max boost of 23PSI was hit at 3200rpm by 4500RPM it started to drop to 22psi then 21psi at 5900RPM I was at 20psi then to 19psi and at 7100RPM to redline i was at 18psi.
So the stock bov is the real let down but the GFB held out very good also did runs in full rec and then full vent and no light no idel problems so all in all very good but I think they changed the model name so it might not be the stealth fx any more you would have to check there site.

My mods are perrin panel filter, cobb intake tube, pass word JDM upper intercooler pipe, Go Fast Bits Stealth FX BOV, and cobb 2011 evo x stage 1 ACN tune that is why make max boost is only at 23psi plus my alt also affects that.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Just put the Synapse DV on and i will never change. You can tell a huge difference in the sound it makes over the stocker. Nothing annoying just MUCH louder!!! And it holds boost very well. Had a tune last week and was watching the boost and it very well!!!

SYNAPSE DV FTW!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 03:34 AM
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Tial all the way
nice sound
nice performance
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The_X_Effect
Just put the Synapse DV on and i will never change. You can tell a huge difference in the sound it makes over the stocker. Nothing annoying just MUCH louder!!! And it holds boost very well. Had a tune last week and was watching the boost and it very well!!!

SYNAPSE DV FTW!!!
This. I gained 18whp switching from my stock bpv to a synapse dv.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 05:31 AM
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This. I gained 18whp switching from my stock bpv to a synapse dv.

My Synapse DV sucks *****. I can not drive my car at part throttle. The BOV flutter is so bad and i tried ever possible setup.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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This. I gained 18whp switching from my stock bpv to a synapse dv.
lol i hope you are kidding about gaining power from a bov..

I rock the cobb bpv. it does its job, and sounds good without being annoying.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by El-Diablo
ANy recommendations on the best BOV to replace stock plastic Ralliart unit on my EVO-X conversion?

I have a HKS SSQV which I had fitted for a day but hated the flutter. I am considering a Synapse DV or BOV.

Recommendations experience much appreciated.
You should really post what your goals are for the car. (I may have missed this in a later post in the thread.) If you are changing out the air meter, you may be able to use an atmospheric BOV. If you are sticking with the stock metering system and want lots of power, you will want a recirculated valve. If your power goals are more humble, the stock EVO valve will work. If you want a bit of flash with reasonable power goals, you may want to go with a hybrid valve that both recirculates and vents to atmosphere. Thats what I ended up doing, using the TurboXs Hybrid BOV.

Either way, there is no "best" valve.. perhaps "best" for a particular build, but not in the general sense.


Originally Posted by oftheheavens
lol i hope you are kidding about gaining power from a bov..
If your valve is leaking and you replace it with one that is not, power gains are expected.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by oftheheavens
lol i hope you are kidding about gaining power from a bov..

I rock the cobb bpv. it does its job, and sounds good without being annoying.


Last edited by Paintballguy; Jul 22, 2011 at 07:45 AM.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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i was looking at getting the turbosmart dual port bov. what do you think?
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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paintball isn't that just a before and after CBRD tune? notice how your power curve continues to climb past the first tune?

it does appear that you were leaking slightly on the old BPV, but i think the tune did more of the power gain then the BOV did.

also it looks like between 5500-6000 you lean out a little. if you look at the AFR for the dotted line, you had a very rich spot in that same RMP, looks as though when the tuner went to correct it, he just made a little to much of a change in that one rpm/load area.

good looking curves though!

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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by oftheheavens
paintball isn't that just a before and after CBRD tune? notice how your power curve continues to climb past the first tune?

it does appear that you were leaking slightly on the old BPV, but i think the tune did more of the power gain then the BOV did.

also it looks like between 5500-6000 you lean out a little. if you look at the AFR for the dotted line, you had a very rich spot in that same RMP, looks as though when the tuner went to correct it, he just made a little to much of a change in that one rpm/load area.

good looking curves though!
Only change was adding the synapse dv. The car was tuned on the stock bpv, and I had Chad switch in a synapse because he thought the stock bpv was leaking. You can see the dates of the runs.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Paintballguy
Only change was adding the synapse dv. The car was tuned on the stock bpv, and I had Chad switch in a synapse because he thought the stock bpv was leaking. You can see the dates of the runs.
O ok cool, glad that fixed your leak. Cbrd is a nice shop!
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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I had a horrible time with my Tial QR Recirculating BOV.

Held boost great as far as I could tell, but so did a slightly crushed Works BOV.

The issue I had was that at part throttle boost between 18-24 psi or 40-50% TPS and trying to balance the car in turns where WOT would send you off track. The car would flutter and buck forcing you to treat the throttle like an on/off switch. Sure you can adjust your driving style but the whole idea is to keep the car on the edge but in balance unless you are purposely trying to loose traction to point the car a different direction.

This was with an 8 psi spring which would be slightly softer than recommended based on the 16.5 in vacuum the car had at idle. The 12 psi spring it came with bucked so hard at part throttle it was laughable, I never did try the 10 psi spring before the car had the fire but can't imagine that it would be better than the 8 psi spring that was softer.

Anyone else have this issue with the Tial at part throttle 18-24 psi at around 40-50% throttle?

I might consider the Synapse if it has enough adjustment to avoid flutter at higher boost. Either that or I'll just get another "similar to stock" Works BOV and slightly crush it if I need a few more psi.
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
I had a horrible time with my Tial QR Recirculating BOV.

Held boost great as far as I could tell, but so did a slightly crushed Works BOV.

The issue I had was that at part throttle boost between 18-24 psi or 40-50% TPS and trying to balance the car in turns where WOT would send you off track. The car would flutter and buck forcing you to treat the throttle like an on/off switch. Sure you can adjust your driving style but the whole idea is to keep the car on the edge but in balance unless you are purposely trying to loose traction to point the car a different direction.

This was with an 8 psi spring which would be slightly softer than recommended based on the 16.5 in vacuum the car had at idle. The 12 psi spring it came with bucked so hard at part throttle it was laughable, I never did try the 10 psi spring before the car had the fire but can't imagine that it would be better than the 8 psi spring that was softer.

Anyone else have this issue with the Tial at part throttle 18-24 psi at around 40-50% throttle?

I might consider the Synapse if it has enough adjustment to avoid flutter at higher boost. Either that or I'll just get another "similar to stock" Works BOV and slightly crush it if I need a few more psi.
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I have pretty much the same issue with my Synapse DV. I am so frustrated with it, i put the stock BPV and now i am only holding 24 psi at redline.

I was considering the Tial QR but i dont know anymore.
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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i do not have anything like that with my Tial. But i have they newest one. i am not sure that is a same as you have.
Also mine is VTA.
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