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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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Evo X Transmission help\WORKS Short shifter

Hello guys, anyway lets just get straight to the point.

2011 Evo X GSR 5 speed.

Ever since I've gotten it I've had problems with grinding and nothyness into 2nd gear and 3rd gear, as has 99% of the Evo owner population.

Anyways, I've been intent on fixing this problem from the start, and countless failed trips to the dealer of just being shot down have let me down and failed me so I took matters into my own hands.

Anyways, whenever people test drive my car they say its fine and its not big deal but it is, I hate it, it literally grinds, and I can't hep but believe that there is no possible way that is fine for the car to do.

I change my trans fluid to the redline mix with mt90, little to no improvement.

I then installed the Works short shifter kit, with underhood bushings, console bushings, and a WORKS weighted shift knob.

Also, this improved shifting a bit but still grindy and notchy, and the stiff\shortness of the shifter only adds to this effect now.

I really don't know what to do but I drove another Evo X with the WORKS kit in it and it didn't feel like mine.

The best way I could describe mine is, it simply feels "loose". When the gear stick is in the neutral position, on my friends car you cant really wiggle it loosely around it doesn't move.

HOWEVER, in my car you can literally wiggle the gear selector around and its loud and all loose and just wiggles around freely almost as if something is loose. This is about the main difference I can find, besides the fact that his car shifts good and mine shifts like crap.

anyway, I'm out of ideas and have no idea what to do, currently on the verge of just selling the car if I can't find a fix, can't justify continuing to pay this much money for a transmission this terrible and no dealer help with warranty. I had some friends say to try amsoil, or to try GM Synchromesh, but I doubt a fluid will miraculously change grinding problems that feel like synchros.

Anyway, please keep the responses coming and respond heavily lets have this thread stay at the top because I'm sick of threads like the :Evo X notchyness thread" just simply go unanswered and die. Please lets find a solution everybody or god damn lets get a group of avid\angry evo drivers together and start protesting this is ridiculous!
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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Do you have this?

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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Another thing to check would be when wiggling the shifter, are the shift levers on the transmission moving too or is the play external of the transmission itself? If not, I would start checking the shifter and bushings install to make sure everything is tight and secure.
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 06:40 AM
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Change the redline out for Amsoil MTG. I used redline and still had the grinding. Then switched to Amsoil at the suggestion of a friend and it went away.
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 06:49 AM
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From my experience, the Amsoil causes MORE grinding since it's too thick of a fluid for our transmission, per Mitsu spec. Fluid will have absolutely nothing to do with a loose/wiggly shifter though; I think this is the cause of your grinding since apparently things aren't lining up properly due to play in the movement.
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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I had the same issue with my 2G DSM. I had Shep build me a transmission and after the install I noticed that exact same problem. Even after the bushing install and the shrot throw. After a long night of searching it was the linkages at the transmission that were loose. I would start there and ensure that everything is nice and tight. From there I would then move to the shifter and double check the linkage there. I hope you find the cause man, grinding gears isn't fun.
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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The redline cocktail mixed help me a bit with my gind, next I'll be removing the clutch restrictor pill.
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Do you have this?

Kind of an odd question, haha. What am I looking at? What is "this"?
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Kind of an odd question, haha. What am I looking at? What is "this"?
http://www.maperformance.com/ams-per...l#.UNSUCIbedDs
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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This could be the solution! I feel like if I fix the sloppy wobbly feel at neutral than I can fix the problem!
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Just sell the car.. I can't believe you are throwing a fit to the point of wanting to sell the car.. Mitsu's entire history of cars basically suffers from this same issue.. Your car is not an isolated issue. I can picture you driving your local dealer insane over this.. Its not right but its one of the drawbacks of owning this particular car.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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Dear Douche-bag,

I have driven numerous amount of evo x's, evo 9's, and evo 8's I didn't just "test drive" a couple for ****s and giggles when I was looking for one I've been driving and working on these cars for years.

I've never seen this issue in the 8's, their notchy yes but never grinding or simply refusing to go into gear.

I HAVE had this issue in 9's with the 6speed on some occasions, even the grinding sometimes but it still felt solid and well put together and it still worked great, it was annoying yes but you could live with it.

I have never had this issue in an X except mine, all the other X's ive driven have usually felt like a evo 9 6speed, with some notchyness and if ever, very very light grinding sometimes in a blue moon.

And then there is my car, the transmission that feels like its completely loose and the shifter itself isn't even screwed right into the console, grinding in second and third almost always unless you literally change your driving style to compensate for the grinding, at which point you still get unbelievable notchyness and sometimes refusal to even go into gear.

Don't sit here and tell me I'm being too picky or that I should just sell the car, if it wasnt that huge of an issue I wouldn't be on the verge of thinking about taking such drastic measures, so if you don't have anything to contribute just leave.

Now that the troll has been dealt with, lol, I will be visiting AMS to have them check the car out sometime this week guys! Also will be purchasing the selector bushing!
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 06:03 AM
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I'm with you, it's a $35k+ car, not a clunker DSM.
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
From my experience, the Amsoil causes MORE grinding since it's too thick of a fluid for our transmission, per Mitsu spec. Fluid will have absolutely nothing to do with a loose/wiggly shifter though; I think this is the cause of your grinding since apparently things aren't lining up properly due to play in the movement.
Some have had luck with one or the other. There is no concrete data that shows the mechanical reason as to why this is.
But AMSOIL as advertised should behave much better than most fluids.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Buguy
Kind of an odd question, haha. What am I looking at? What is "this"?
Made a huge difference before I went to the work short shifter.
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