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Old May 12, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Turbo as first upgrade

I've done a couple quick searches and haven't really found an answer.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

But

Has anyone upgraded their turbo as one of their first mods.

And I'm not meaning anything large.

Something like a BBX, green or MHI.

Personally I felt like the car needs a biggerish turbo in stock form.

I felt the same way with my old XMR stock and it felt the same to me with full bolt ons and tune.

I attributed it to the transmission.

But now with my GSR I feel like it was the turbo all along with the MR.

And maybe it's all in my head.

With that being said

Are there any drawbacks aside from more hp that if be missing out on if I start the mods a bit backwards?

Also I'm not planning on ever going above 400-450 hp.

Thanks for the input and I apologize if this is a noobish type question.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 05:51 PM
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Yeah you'll mainly just be missing out on extra power that will come from supporting mods such as cams, fuel, intercooler, exhaust. once you have those bolt on's, combined with a tune, you'll def see an increase in power and drive ability.

But by just simply slapping on a bigger turbo, you wont notice that big of a difference on a stock car. Yeah it'll be faster, but def not as huge of a diff with supporting mods.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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Thanks for the reply.

Sounds like the traditional route is best.

I love these cars but it feels like the edge has been removed from previous generations.

I'm trying to figure out how to bring some of that back.

Is a fuel pump advisable before a tune.

I remember reading it wasn't absolutely necessary as with the 8's but I'm just wondering if that's still the common thought.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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You will need all the supporting mods like intake, downpipe, test pipe, catback, intercooler, and a tune first. If you still want more power after that, then you can look into injectors/pump and the turbo. Upgrading the turbo first won't really net you much.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vanilla2
Thanks for the reply.

Sounds like the traditional route is best.

I love these cars but it feels like the edge has been removed from previous generations.

I'm trying to figure out how to bring some of that back.

Is a fuel pump advisable before a tune.

I remember reading it wasn't absolutely necessary as with the 8's but I'm just wondering if that's still the common thought.
as soon as you add full turbo back exhaust, the car will feel and flow A LOT better. So I'd do that first, then go intercooler+ Piping and a tune. Then you'll definitely be satisfied until a turbo upgrade. stock fuel pump is fine until you upgrade the injectors and FPR as well(From what i've read)
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Old May 14, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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Go straight to an FP Black! With no supporting mods haha.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo Monster
Go straight to an FP Black! With no supporting mods haha.
sounds like a good idea to me
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Old May 14, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Upgraded turbo , injectors and a fuel pump and tune and baM! The fun has begun!
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Old May 21, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo Monster
Go straight to an FP Black! With no supporting mods haha.
This actually would not be a bad idea FP BLACK with Maybe some injectors a fuel pump and tune should make some nice power, and amazingly stealthy.

So many people are suck in traditional ways I have a friend with a evo 9 With FP RED fuel pump 1000cc injectors and intake thats all,and the car has been running strong for years 0 problems and runs smooth and feels great.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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I have a GTX 3582 from ATP if your interested. This turbo with injectors,fuel pump, and 3" TBE made 400 awhp on a mustang dyno. 25 psi and 91 octane fuel
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Old May 21, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NY Black momba
This actually would not be a bad idea FP BLACK with Maybe some injectors a fuel pump and tune should make some nice power, and amazingly stealthy.

So many people are suck in traditional ways I have a friend with a evo 9 With FP RED fuel pump 1000cc injectors and intake thats all,and the car has been running strong for years 0 problems and runs smooth and feels great.
I knew someone had to have done it.

I'm not sure I want to get too far into modding this car.

And I feel a larger turbo (not a red or black) would really wake this car up and give it a solid base to build on if I ever decide to mod further.

Should've left the part about never wanting to go above a certain hp as my goal is to build a well rounded fun to drive car.

And I don't think I need an extra 100 hp to achieve that.

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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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It has been done many times. I would say go for it and I know for a fact it would still be very fun and quiet/stealthy for that matter. Clearly you would be holding the car back, restriction wise, but it still will make power. I would personally just do the turbo, downpipe, test pipe, intake, injectors, pump, and call it a day. If you do the turbo that the pump/injectors will be required either way so really only adding an intake, down pipe, and test pipe. I rocked the stock cat back early on with an AMS DP and test pipe and it was great.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by vanilla2
I knew someone had to have done it.

I'm not sure I want to get too far into modding this car.

And I feel a larger turbo (not a red or black) would really wake this car up and give it a solid base to build on if I ever decide to mod further.

Should've left the part about never wanting to go above a certain hp as my goal is to build a well rounded fun to drive car.

And I don't think I need an extra 100 hp to achieve that.
Maybe I'm missing something...but you're saying you don't want to get too far into modding this car, so instead of bolt-ons, you want to upgrade the turbo? That seems a little backwards to me. Bolt-ons are the usual first mods for a reason. They're easy, relatively cheap, and give some good power with a good tune.

Sure, you can upgrade the turbo first, but to me, that dives much more into the modding of a car than the basic bolt-ons do.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shekaar
Maybe I'm missing something...but you're saying you don't want to get too far into modding this car, so instead of bolt-ons, you want to upgrade the turbo? That seems a little backwards to me. Bolt-ons are the usual first mods for a reason. They're easy, relatively cheap, and give some good power with a good tune.

Sure, you can upgrade the turbo first, but to me, that dives much more into the modding of a car than the basic bolt-ons do.
What exactly do you consider "basic" bolt ons?

I'm looking to do something a bit different.

As This is my third Evo and I Went the traditional route both other times.

And the journey has gotten less satisfying each go round.

Who knows I may even just get an AP and a tune and stop there.
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Old May 23, 2014 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vanilla2
What exactly do you consider "basic" bolt ons?

I'm looking to do something a bit different.

As This is my third Evo and I Went the traditional route both other times.

And the journey has gotten less satisfying each go round.

Who knows I may even just get an AP and a tune and stop there.
Bolt ons are bolt ons. Pretty universally include TBE, intake, UICP/LICP could throw FMIC. Aong those lines.

I imagine the journey does get less satisfying each time. It just seems to me that losing spool putting a bigger turbo in there would be even less satisfying.

I can't really judge though, to each his own Good luck! If you do end up going turbo as first mod, I'd be very curious to get your impressions on it.
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