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Oct 30, 2007, 06:50 PM
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A high skidpad number does NOT equal 'best handling.' You can slap on some R compounds on a regular Lancer and it will better the skidpad numbers from an Evo. But that doesn't mean it handles great.
Oct 31, 2007, 06:50 AM
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konnichiwa from japan. 
i guess i can contribute to this thread since ive driven the new sti (test drive with evo tomorrow).
so far, i'm sold on the sti. i got to drive it pretty hard for the time i had it on the road, but i didn't get to do any high speed testing on it since the dealership was smack dab in the middle of tokyo. i still got to take it to 80-90 km/h (which is only around 45-50 ish) since the speed limit was only 40 km/h
as far as power delivery, it's very smooth. turbo lag is very minimal, even with the 2.0l version japan has. it sometimes feels like an N/A car, especially from a roll. the interior is Very Nice (compared to the X. i checked one out at the tokyo motor show and i was not impressed) but interior is not really a concern for me when buying a type of vehicle like this. the handling is GREAT, car feels like it's on rails. i "accidentally" scared the sales lady riding with me taking a right turn at nearly 80 km/h (remember, japanese people drive on the left) and the car just turned, no drama, no tires squealing. steering isn't as responsive as my evo 8, but its pretty damn close. i absolutely love the styling minus the altezza-style taillights, but nothing bluebatmobile can't fix. the boxer rumble has always been one of my favorite engine sounds and throwing in the 5dr hatchback model was just icing on the cake (great for my snowboards). i'll be reportin back with a test drive from the evo x sometime this week so stay tuned.
on another note, dealerships here are completely different from american stealerships. salesman are very polite, actually KNOW the specs of the cars, AND they provide brochures b4 u even get the chance to ask them. funny tho how sti "salesmen" are mostly all females. some of them are hella cute too
. btw, the gt-r was Sick!! i got to sit in the cockpit with the computer on and play with all the gadgets. i am def gonna sell my lung and kidney for a black one
i guess i can contribute to this thread since ive driven the new sti (test drive with evo tomorrow).so far, i'm sold on the sti. i got to drive it pretty hard for the time i had it on the road, but i didn't get to do any high speed testing on it since the dealership was smack dab in the middle of tokyo. i still got to take it to 80-90 km/h (which is only around 45-50 ish) since the speed limit was only 40 km/h
as far as power delivery, it's very smooth. turbo lag is very minimal, even with the 2.0l version japan has. it sometimes feels like an N/A car, especially from a roll. the interior is Very Nice (compared to the X. i checked one out at the tokyo motor show and i was not impressed) but interior is not really a concern for me when buying a type of vehicle like this. the handling is GREAT, car feels like it's on rails. i "accidentally" scared the sales lady riding with me taking a right turn at nearly 80 km/h (remember, japanese people drive on the left) and the car just turned, no drama, no tires squealing. steering isn't as responsive as my evo 8, but its pretty damn close. i absolutely love the styling minus the altezza-style taillights, but nothing bluebatmobile can't fix. the boxer rumble has always been one of my favorite engine sounds and throwing in the 5dr hatchback model was just icing on the cake (great for my snowboards). i'll be reportin back with a test drive from the evo x sometime this week so stay tuned.
on another note, dealerships here are completely different from american stealerships. salesman are very polite, actually KNOW the specs of the cars, AND they provide brochures b4 u even get the chance to ask them. funny tho how sti "salesmen" are mostly all females. some of them are hella cute too
. btw, the gt-r was Sick!! i got to sit in the cockpit with the computer on and play with all the gadgets. i am def gonna sell my lung and kidney for a black one
Nov 6, 2007, 09:48 PM
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i absolutely love the styling minus the altezza-style taillights, but nothing bluebatmobile can't fix. the boxer rumble has always been one of my favorite engine sounds and throwing in the 5dr hatchback model was just icing on the cake (great for my snowboards). i'll be reportin back with a test drive from the evo x sometime this week so stay tuned.
I'm kind of on the same page. Love the evo look, but like the sti's interior much better, rumble of the engine as well as hatch styling (for my skis etc). I also think that subie might end up being more reliable. If sti is going to end up being faster I'm going to be sold on it. I can tell it's gonna be a hard decision for me when these 2 beasts come out.
Nov 7, 2007, 07:30 AM
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They always say the same thing about the Evo vs. STi on BBC Top Gear. The Evo is faster, more responsive, and more thrilling to drive. But they prefer the STi because it's less frantic, easier to drive, and has a softer suspension and plusher interior.
It's the exact opposite on Channel 5's Fifth Gear. The three primary reviewers there (Tiff Needel, Vicky Butler-Henderson, and Jason Plato) are all racers with BTCC, rally, LeMans, and even F1 experience between them. They value different things in cars compared to the old men on Top Gear. The Fifth Gear crew always find the Evo > STi. They especially love the Evo VI and use it as the benchmark for AWD super saloons.
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Nov 7, 2007, 08:41 AM
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that's only 2nd or 3rd hand information. until they get their hands dirty to that two cars and with the stig. Evo was their all time favorite if you look back at all evo vs sti top gear vids.
Nov 7, 2007, 10:21 AM
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I'm kind of on the same page. Love the evo look, but like the sti's interior much better, rumble of the engine as well as hatch styling (for my skis etc). I also think that subie might end up being more reliable. If sti is going to end up being faster I'm going to be sold on it. I can tell it's gonna be a hard decision for me when these 2 beasts come out.
If the rumors are correct the STI wil be 200 to 300 hundred lbs lighter with 20 more horses than the EVO which means it should be quicker in the straights. Hopefully (assuming the rumors are correct) the EVO will rectify the power situation with the next edition
Nov 7, 2007, 11:19 AM
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