Found this article that gives what seems to be a reliable price quote on the BMW 135i.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/bmw-1+...ced-323341.php

The 135i doesn't have SST, but if the MR gets too pricey, I may have to get off the EVO X bandwagon...

 

im going to have to second that... the 1 series is quite the little hidden beast.

 

Everything will be optional, it's a BMW after all. A reasonably optioned one will be over $40K. Which is STILL cheap for a BMW, especially if you're gonna lease. You have to keep in mind how much better that 135 is going to hold it's value than an Evolution.

 

you are forgetting the cost of repairs and oil changes

 

for what the evo or bmw....repairs on my evo r high...****ty clutches

 

Some people fail to keep in mind that 35k is BASE PRICE. A decently equipped 1-series will be pushing at around 40k.

And no one in their right mind is ever going to buy a base 135i, unless it is for tracking purpose and the car is going to get stripped anyways.

 

yeah, you can load up $13K in options on the 135i if you want EVERYTHING.

So the 135i and EVO X are not competitive.

 

The 135i hasn't come here (Singapore) yet, but it will be significantly more expensive than the Evo X. I test drove the 335i coupe the other day - feels like just another slushbox, disconnected from the road. I guess it's quick when I kick it down to WOT, but still not the feel I'd like from a performance car.

Reminded me a little of the E55 AMG I test drove a couple of years back - that was so disconnected I didn't realise I was doing 190 km/hr (120 mph) on a traffic-free road!

I hope the 135i will feel more "sporty" than the 3-series.

 

If you read some of the reviews, I believe one of the thing people criticized about is the not-so-sport feel of the car.

 

The 135i is equipped extremely well in base form. Looking through the options, I don't see a single thing you'd need to add to the 135i to option it out comparably to the X. The only possible addition would be the Sport package ($1k) for the 8-way adjustable sport seats instead of the standard 6-way.

Aside from the satellite radio and previously mentioned sport package, the X doesn't even offer the rest of the options, so it's pointless to compare the fully-optioned 135i to the X. The base 135i compares quite favorably with the X on a features/price basis. Plus you get 4 full years of paid service, which could easily run you close to $1k with regular maintenance and synthetic oil changes if you don't plan on doing it yourself.

 

Here is the link: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attac...2&d=1195250986

It also depends if we are comparing 135i to GSR or to the MR. Since official pricing of Evo X is not released, no point for me to do a side by side comparison between the 2.

Well here are the options. If you want leather, people usually pay for the premium package instead of just paying for the leather option alone, which would add up to $38,975 and then add sports package, well you know where I am going with this.

I really wouldn't consider a base 135i is extremely well equipped in base form. No leather in a BMW? I wouldn't do that to myself.

Point is 135i is not a cheap car, even BMW stated it is be a cheap car. However it is definitely a cheap twin turbo RWD car.

 

Why would you insist on adding an expensive leather option to compare it to the X when the X doesn't have a leather option? It makes no sense. I think most people would make due with the standard leatherette option just fine.

Plus you get a moonroof, keyless with pushbutton start, and bi-xenon headlights... expensive options provided standard in base form. Then there's the two extra cylinders, extra turbo, and extra gear, which all cost a little more.

There's a lot to like. They crammed tons of features in for what they're asking for the thing.

 

There certainly is alot to like, but the only thing this BMW and Evo X have in common is price. The 135i will probably be faster in a straight line, but it is not this lightweight little sports coupe that everyone thinks its going to be. It weights 3440 - only 130 lbs or so off the curb weight of a 335i. I've seen a few reviews of the dynamics and the thing that people are complaining about is that its suspension is designed for touring, not track work. Basically, you'd need some coilovers to get it to handle the way you would want it to. The average Evo owner wouldn't be happy with it in stock form.

 

I mostly agree. It would take a miracle for the 135i to handle the curves like the X without modifications, but they're different cars.

I was just looking at the value, as someone considering an Evo/STi/G37/135i in the coming months, of these cars. Subaru specifically targets those as the competition with their recent 2008 STi demographic information, along with the Nissan 350Z.

They are all performance-oriented cars in the same price range. Each has strengths and weaknesses, and I think they will be compared by many buyers. The posts on this site by Evo owners alone unhappy with the X and considering the BMW for their next car is proof of that.

FWIW, pending official pricing, I think the Evo is the best of the group. On the other hand, I'll certainly be checking out and driving (if possible) the competitors before making a decision.

 

From what I read, the 135i won't have an LSD either as standard or option. To that I say, booo!