Why can't Evo X lovers accept the facts?
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I've noticed a growing trend on many Evo X threads where Evo X guys are beginning to dispute the facts as they come out. They're arguing over the official USDM HP/TQ figures and the official USDM weight. That official information has been available on 
website since 11/15/07...yet they still argue over the facts.
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/deta...73098&mime=ASC
Don't get me wrong...many Evo X guys are just fine with the facts. Some are dissappointed. But, there are quite a few newbs to this site that fit the description I listed above.
Why would they do that considering the data came straight from Mitsu? I guess they just don't want to believe what they are reading
website since 11/15/07...yet they still argue over the facts.http://media.mitsubishicars.com/deta...73098&mime=ASC
Don't get me wrong...many Evo X guys are just fine with the facts. Some are dissappointed. But, there are quite a few newbs to this site that fit the description I listed above.
Why would they do that considering the data came straight from Mitsu? I guess they just don't want to believe what they are reading
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I don't think many are disputing that it is going to faster around a track or that it has better handling. My gripe is that it loses the edge that makes it an Evo. I'm sure it is the all-around better car...but i'm gonna miss that rawness. I like my steaks medium to medium rare because its the most flavorful and enjoyable - like the IX. A well done steak is the Evo X...its all around better for you and more supported by the majority, but looses that intense gamey flavor that makes eating a steak (driving an Evo) so damn enjoyable. Hope that analogy makes sense 
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I don't think many are disputing that it is going to faster around a track or that it has better handling. My gripe is that it loses the edge that makes it an Evo. I'm sure it is the all-around better car...but i'm gonna miss that rawness. I like my steaks medium to medium rare because its the most flavorful and enjoyable - like the IX. A well done steak is the Evo X...its all around better for you and more supported by the majority, but looses that intense gamey flavor that makes eating a steak (driving an Evo) so damn enjoyable. Hope that analogy makes sense .
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Well I like the X a lot! My only gripe is no 6speed manual... Not sure if this is still the deal but the new Phantom Black only comes on the MR. Anyways ill be gettin one after winter here in Ohio prolly March
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I like the x but i think they tried to pull a fast one when mitsu called all the journalist out to test drive the jdm version (206mr-173 pounds lighter than the usdm x) the only car they had on hand was a usdm evo ix. Why not bring out the jdm ix, "that would have made more sense", if the handling is so much better than the last gen why not test it against the best ix with ayc to show off the new technology ?........ Thats why im skeptical about it being 2 sec faster around the track than the ix. So when then usdm x comes the times are going to be a lot closer than 2 sec, they just used the usdm version to make it seem like were getting a car thats 2 sec faster around the track but were not. (more like 1 sec maybe less)
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I like the x but i think they tried to pull a fast one when mitsu called all the journalist out to test drive the jdm version (206mr-173 pounds lighter than the usdm x) the only car they had on hand was a usdm evo ix. Why not bring out the jdm ix, "that would have made more sense", if the handling is so much better than the last gen why not test it against the best ix with ayc to show off the new technology ?........ Thats why im skeptical about it being 2 sec faster around the track than the ix. So when then usdm x comes the times are going to be a lot closer than 2 sec, they just used the usdm version to make it seem like were getting a car thats 2 sec faster around the track but were not. (more like 1 sec maybe less)
If you read the post that I made in the 4b11>4g63 thread, Best Motoring of Japan ran a test between the JDM evo 9 and JDM evo X, and the X was still faster around the autocross course. Apples to apples comparison. Both JDM models. And to Adam, I'll try to be the bigger person here and say that we got off on the wrong foot. I am not denying that the spec sheet may be right, I'm just saying that a lot of times, the "official" spec sheets change right before the models actually come out. The power figures may well be different because SAE ratings changed in 2006, as well as the fact that the "gentleman's agreement" in Japan to always rate any car that makes over 276 hp...276. We will see when the car comes out. It should be the overall better car, added weight and all. But, yet again, if you don't like it then don't buy it. You are obviously an EVO 9 fanboy, so this is to be expected. Once the car comes out and the more capable AWD system and better motor design prove their worth, you'll be singing a different tune.
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Im not a evo ix "fan boy" im just a little disappointed with the x, Basically it's the horsepower / price ratio(est 35k gsr 40k mr). I can't see myself paying more money for a slower heavier car that only has six more hp than a caliber srt-4 witch has the same motor and platform only costing 21k(I know AWD AYC ect. apples/oranges whatever). I was expecting 320hp like they originally stated so the only thing i had to do was change the down pipe,ecu flash, intercooler piping, raise the boost and i would be right around 370/380hp and be happy with my x. now if i do that with the current 291hp i will be right at 340/350hp with those mods barely keeping up with an ix with similar mods
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With an extra 250 lbs to lug around and basically no extra HP over the IX, I can kinda see why Road and Track ran 13.8 @ 102 in the 1/4-mile (however, I believe the car should still run 13.6 or better).
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ugh, I don't feel like explaining this, but the motors are totally different between the srt 4 caliber and the evo x. They arent't even BASED on the same block. The caliber is based on the base eclipse/galant 2.4 liter block, the evo's 2.0 liter, while based on the base lancer, is specially built for that car, no other car will get the evo motor. The block is much stronger in the evo thanks to special reinforcements, the ladder support structure, the fact that the block has steel sleeves, the crank, connecting rods, pistons, all stronger in the evo x motor. The heads flow much better, the valve timing setup with the cams are much more advanced and leave much more room for power potential, so basically they have almost nothing in common. The caliber srt4 motor may come close on hp, but torque falls way short. The caliber is set up to make a bit more power than stock with some tuning, but the evo x motor is set up to make big power. To bring the srt 4's motor up to evo x standards, you'd have to replace the entire motor. Long block, short block and all internals, heads, everything. Please don't make stupid, ignorant comments about the car anymore, I've had about as much as I can take. If you want to buy the caliber, go ahead. It's not a bad car, but it sure as hell is no EVO.