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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
I'll go out on a limb here and say that nobody will find out how much power the short block will be able to handle until the ECU setup is cracked. New gen ECU's are much tougher to hack; the 4G63 had it easy with it's practically open-source ECU. Time will tell of course; we can hope the new ECU will be easy. Ripping it out and going full standalone may have more repercussions than most people want to deal with [like no RKE, immobilizer, dashboard displays being all driven by CAN].
Bingo! Give the man a prize!!

Tuning is key and from what I hear - CAN BUS is for the birds. Hard to crack and hard to modify for big power.

-M
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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why don't we already know the answer to these questions?? No one on these forums has any contacts with people who've already been inside the motors etc.??? Why don't we have any dyno numbers from over seas yet?? I really don't understand what the hold up is here..
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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i dont get what the hype is about the 4b11t having sleeves from the factory...every single alluminum block has iron sleeves from the factory,granted the sleeves arent always the strongest.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Just face it mitsu does not want street races bumping their cars up to 1000Hp and racing around town... I they see you doing it they will make the care ugly and less mod friendly ala the 2000 eclipse
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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hahaah 2000 eclipse
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by silverblacksrt4
hahaah 2000 eclipse
exactly what a piece of crap that was and is



ooh and dont forget this joke..

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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^^ man! i hope the evo x doesn't turn into another joke like those eclipses. :-(
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
I'll go out on a limb here and say that nobody will find out how much power the short block will be able to handle until the ECU setup is cracked. New gen ECU's are much tougher to hack; the 4G63 had it easy with it's practically open-source ECU. Time will tell of course; we can hope the new ECU will be easy. Ripping it out and going full standalone may have more repercussions than most people want to deal with [like no RKE, immobilizer, dashboard displays being all driven by CAN].
Do you think WORKS already has a head start on that considering they're heavily working with mitsubishi on the Lancer SCCA race car?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Awww man, I had a 2000 Eclipse V6 at one time. I feel less cool now that I know everyone was laughing at me. I have since seen the light, but it was a good car back in the day.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Awww man, I had a 2000 Eclipse V6 at one time. I feel less cool now that I know everyone was laughing at me. I have since seen the light, but it was a good car back in the day.
you're the people same that's going to jump into the EVO X, thinking thats cool even tho its nothing more than another big joke
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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you're the people same that's going to jump into the EVO X, thinking thats cool even tho its nothing more than another big joke
This coming from the guy that according to his avatar drives a cabriolet.
Do you even own an Evo?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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you're the people same that's going to jump into the EVO X, thinking thats cool even tho its nothing more than another big joke
Oh, it's the guy that doesn't know his roman numerals and now it seems has problems with basic sentence structure of the English language. Seriously man, how could you afford that CLK?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Import Junky
I would like to know of an engine w/ aluminum block and big turbo without being sleeved and decked.
a teksid ford 4.6L block like mine has been proven 1500+ horsepower capable with little or no modifications. it all has to do with where you put the material.

03-04 "terminator" cobras seek the older teksid blocks (theirs are cast iron) for their durability when they want to make big power numbers.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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lol...
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Sure they dont generally have cracked sleeve problems but like i said once your using a large turbo its a different story and most people arent using large turbos on stis like 40r plus turbos for those exact reasons i stated. Well see what the real deal is with evo x's when tuners start slapping on 40r plus turbos on them.
most sti's don't use large turbochargers because the length of the header makes it difficult to spool (despite the extra displacement) larger turbos.
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