i just realized that Mitsubishi didn’t care about the EVO fans with the new X, all they cared about was to build a car that for volume sales, volume sales are geared toward the mass, and the mass doesn’t care if its faster then the old, all they care about is the new.

just wait and see, they will build alot more then before

so bottom line Mitsubishi built a car for the masses

 

I disagree, i think many people are being too harsh, although i admit the EVO X is a big jump forward for the EVO line, the jump has left more of a gap between the EVO 9 and 10. And since its a rather new platform it will take time to refine the car, to use an analogy that makes sense. Its just like when they make a jump in a videogame console system, PS 1 > PS 2 > PS 3, each jump forwards in the beginning is met with alot of critisim, many people consider the quality crap, not worth the upgraded, etc... in the beginning, why? with new technology it takes time to work out bugs, find new ways of pushing the code to its limits and beyond. A car is no different I suggest before making up your mind on something you personally havent driven, you test drive the car yourself instead of having other people make up your mind for you. you may find the experience better then you thought.

The Evo is one of the most advanced cars of its class, also judging the car in its stock form is one thing, but many people are completely clueless about its upgrade potential.


But go back to your point about sales and such, some what agree, well kinda.

I think Mitsu is making a stategic error by designing the RA so similar to EVO, what would have been more intelligent would have been to design the RalliArt with a low boost 2.4L and avoid a half assed poor mans EVO based on the 4B11. On the plus side for Lancer customers and Ralli Art lancers is that there will be a healthy / cheap market for internals / turbo upgrades with so many interchangable parts. While leaving the 2.4 Liter GTS out in the cold. They will face increased costs if they attempted to upgrade their car beyond its natural N/A limits.

To sum it up, on the person looking for the True EVO experience (Die Hard) will buy the EVO, for a cheaper price many will dive into a Detuned EVO engine of the Ralli Art. Assuming the speculation of both the GTS 2.4 and Ralli Art is correct.

Cheers

 

Don't you think you are being a little premature in your judgement of the X? I have had 2 evos and an sti and I for one am looking forward to the X. Let people drive it first, let the tuners get their hands on it. Go and drive it, then pass judgement. Technology wise, it's one of the top in the world. It might end of being one the best in the world handling wise.

 

dude mitsu got tired of fixing warrantys on moded engines for 4g63 and hence changed it to aluminium and same was the case for eclipses 1st line models GSX gave bad name to mitsu with all the moding high insurance, ore accidents blah bla..IMO just be glad evo is still present in US

 

wait isnt that the whole point? to make sales?

 

I think your point is Mitsu developed a car that they would sell more of. I agree with you 100%. If the Evo has Mitsubishi on it's back, they have to get the most out of it. Mitsu(car division) is a company that probably loses money hand over fist.
Ford (pronounced TURD) did the same thing with the new(er) F-150. They realized the truck was carrying the company. They blantantly stated that the F150 carried everything they did, from selling losers to funding their racing etc... They decided if the truck was carrying the company, they needed to maximize it's sales.
I'm not sad they did it, as I'm new to the game, and just bought a 9. Maybe it'll make mine worth more. Reading what I have about Mitsubishi, I'm not concerned about their well-being either, because of their apparent disregard for their customer base. I own a very small Kawasaki dealer. I treat every customer I have as if they're my only one, and go out of my way to not only give them the best customer service they've ever had, but to impress them. IMO, Mitsu should do the same with their customers. They don't have the power of other car companies, to keep bringing in waves of new customers, to fill the void of the ones that are leaving.

 

Your opinion is great.

For me...to poop on.

 

Very interesting how giving us a "full" Evo in comparison to the older models in other markets is not built for Evo fans. Think back to the 03 US Evo.

I started out with Mistu cars with a 97 GSX, I autox'd it over the seven years I
had it. When the '03 Evo's were available in the US I was disappointed as an
Evo fan because it was a passive Evo, it didn't have the active differentials.

In 2005 I got the Evo I was happy to have which now had an active center differential, but yet it still was not the full Evo in comparison to an Evo available in the U.K or Japan. We didn't get AYC in the US models.

Now we have the Evo X, we get ACD, AYC, etc, we have a transmission where some of the technology used is trickled down from racing where when allowed by the rules in racing everyone uses (sequential/automated manual transmissions).

I had the opportunity to take my '05 out for a track day(NHIS) last year, and I had a blast. If I have to opportunity to take an Evo X to the track in SST trim, I'll be the first to say that Mitsu provided an Evo for the Evo fan in me.

will never provide us with the perfect car, but if the current Evo's were
perfect in our eyes, we would never want more performance over stock.

Where would we be if Mistu had decided that they would never bring the Evo to the US market?


Here's something all of us can enjoy as Evo fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSYTTUOoghU

GSX->Evo VIII->"Future Evo" Fan

 

geez, can people just get over it ? X is what it is. Its a better car in some parts and little worse in others.

Most people on this forum just use their Evos for Shows anyways, so why complain about speed or weight. You AIN'T going to race it so get over it

 

only problem i have with X i the price. Its $7K too high

 

so you want the evo x to cost about $27k??? i know i would too, but common, even the evo 8 was more than that

 

^^^I just dont think mitsu has the brand respect right now to be charging such high prices for a car tha is mot living up to performance expectations.

 

Well my opinion is an 03' USDM evo 8 is the finest car ever made.

 

It could be that our purchasing power is going down relative to the rest of the world, and as a result, prices of auto will go up and up even more in the future.

 

Yes, the X was made for sales....and I hope they do well.

A company whose performance division is called Ralliart (you can look at it as Rally Art). They can supply FIA homologated parts. To me, that shows their commitment to rally motorsport.

Part of Evo's existence and the way they are is because of the great league (much MUCH less known in the USA than NASCAR) called FIA's World Rally Championship (WRC).

Ever wonder why it's AWD.....ever wonder why it's 2.0L? Ever wonder why Evo's in production?

FIA regulates that to compete in Group A, N, and World Champion level, the car must be production based car and minimum 25,000 must be built. FIA allows AWD cars to participate.....and guess what the max displacement for turbocharged engine is - you guessed it, 2.0L.

So I hope the X will exceed IX....and hope that Mitsu will go in WRC again. They haven't won since Makinen (1996-1999) in Evo VI.