The Evo and any car for that matter will and should be compared to anything in it's price range. Potential buyers want to know how it stacks up from performance to styling to ammenities. The prices will range from 32 to 45k give or take. So anyone looking at the base model can compare it to a 1 series BMW. Likewise anyone looking at an MR can compare it to a Vette. You have to remember not everyone is so die hard set on Evo's. They want to know their other options and how they stack up. Just cause you say not to aint gonna make it so!!

 

well that shut everyone up about saying they are ugly because we all know those X's looked hot as heII


If the X were a 1/10th faster then I def wouldnt be on here ranting and raving about it being faster then the IX.





whats funny is is I remember a few mag tests getting 13.3 and even as high as 13.6-12.8 for stock IX 1/4 times because the stock 2 step tranny saver was keeping them from getting a decent 60ft and it was roasting the clutch. I even saw one magazine where they said they couldnt even get a clean run cuz the clutch would just burn up.

Now i'm SURE this evo has the same 5k launch limit. lets get the car here, take that off and lets see how it does then.

-Steve

 

my opinion about the X is slow:
It is a great thing that couple tenth is scared out a lots of people... Because that is ,if you know what is the evo made for, didn't count. Now if you worry about those numbers you most likely a drag racer, who is picked the wrong car for he's hobby. So if the mitshu loose them, basicly its great. Since the most issues coming from drag race. /broken parts ,street race etc./ So we not going to have those drag drivers anymore...beautiful.
Before it starts and someone coming back ,like the evo is great for drag, etc.
The reason most guys think it is great for drag. That's because they can drive the high whp evo under 12 sec. Now to do that with 2 wheel drive you need skills...
That is all. The factory 07 Z06 with sliks going deep undert 12's. But how many guy can do it? So its not the car its a driver. For the drag ,i will admit the evo is good when they will go under 5-6 sec. untill , leave it for the American cars.They can go there .

Now the other hand the X out handles every evo ./so far that is what we get/ In short track leave the STI 1 sec behind, and we know the STI is stronger + lighter.
In 57 sec lap time and pull 1 sec ahead is great. So the X is evolved from the previus models. So it is a better platform . This is always happend with the EVo. The History repeat itself.
1-3 Evo the 3 was the best one. 4-6 the 6th was the best one . but the 4 was not as good as the 3rd. 7-9 the 9 is the best one but the 7 wasn't good as the 6th. So i think this is happening again. Fix the handling first then the power.

 

yeah...just save up your money and wait for the XII...that's what i would do....but i'm happy with my ix

 

We all think that?

Maybe not you per se, but I'm willing to bet a lot would. It's only natural when you support a car to flaunt any small victory you can find, just human nature.

In regard to the topic of this thread, I too think the comparisons are pretty fair, especially to the BMW's (have yet to hear it compared to a vette personally). Mitsubishi is designing the X (sorry, sorry, 2008 Lancer Evolution) with a few more luxuries in mind. There's the new MR transmission (making the car more accessible), the nav system/stereo options (making the car more luxurious), and the heavy new safety features (keeping the kids safer). Personally I think it's totally fair to compare the X to other cars because Mitsubishi is now considering those cars its competition.

 

With Extensive testing in Europe.........

They have had the 1 series for several years. It's one of the most driver involved cars. Why would a car company build a car with a 300bhp engine and a refined gearbox and then give it a POS suspension. This is a company that sells rolling chassis for race teams through my dealer. They are hardcore about the way their cars handle.

Do research before you post a thoughtless comment.
www.dtmpower.net

 

The Evo is always going to be a more cost effective car for tuners. I'm certain you could take the extra 2-7grand and make the car look better and perform better with a few bolt-ons. Bad base to start with though. The fenders and headlights are so rounded and undefined. I am seeing Lancers driving around all of the time. I'm not going to be able to tell the difference when I do finally see the X.

 

I'm not sure why anyone hasn't called you out on this. The after market world wont be as supportive? You do realize that the 135 has the same engine as the 335? There's been an after market for that engine for quite some time now. A simple chip and an exhaust will bring the 3.5 liter TT up to 350hp and 380lbft of torque. So you are wrong on that aspect buddy. I don't think that installing a chip and an exhaust will be anymore difficult on a 135 than a 335.

And what does the size of a car have to do with the car having an after market following (or not)? If you plan on putting in TV's and large subwoofers I can see your point, but for performance improvements, the size of a car doesn't matter. I'll take your example, the miata. The Miata has a huge after market following and are regularly raced. My boss races a Miata (or at least used to, he still has the car). And then there are the Minis that have a huge aftermarket, Honda Civics, I could go on and on. Why do you think that the size of a car has anything to do with it having, or not having an aftermarket following?

 

do you really think the BMW have the same after market support, like Mitsubishi?

 

Maybe.....if your Helen Keller

 

I would prefer to be called Stevie wonder.

 

I never said that. And that isn't what this conversation is about. This isn't about BMW vs Mitsubishi. The point I'm trying to make is that the BMW after market support isn't lacking.

 

I was all about an EVO X until I saw the price and gas mileage numbers. I was really hoping the car would be about $3-4k cheaper than it is looking to be.

For the price of an 'ok' equipped new 2008 EVO X GSR I can get a 2006-2007 corvette with less than 10k miles with 3LT incl Nav. It'll get 28mpg highway, turn more heads, and 400hp. Plenty of mods if I want to go crazy but I doubt I will since off the line it's 0-60 in 4.3sec.

I lose the utility of AWD and the backseat but overall I just think it's a much cooler car.

That is why it is being compared to the EVO. When the price of the EVO went up it is now competing with cars in another class. I get your point that most of these cars all decked out exceed the price of the evo by 5k-8k but those vehicles stock are going to smoke a stock evo (2008 vette or 335i).

Also don't forget GM gives you a 100k mile warrenty and your money is going to a U.S. company. This isn't a HUGE deal but it is something to consider when you are paying $35-45k for a car and want to support your own country/economy.

 

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"That is why it is being compared to the EVO. When the price of the EVO went up it is now competing with cars in another class. I get your point that most of these cars all decked out exceed the price of the evo by 5k-8k but those vehicles stock are going to smoke a stock evo (2008 vette or 335i).
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well i dont know where you get your info's. Search a little bit, look around before you post.

 

stop all this "chick car talk" those days are over... now that women are liberal and independent, divorced and earning their own money they are living just like men and driving what ever they see men driving. So most cool cars are chick cars now...LOL