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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Why damn it !?!?!?!

Can someone explain to me, why the EVO X as a MSRP of 33 000 $ in the US and in Canada the MSRP is 41 500 $ .

The damn car arrives in Vancouver so no border fees if it would had come in the US in first place.

Mitsubishi sells more EVO in the US , yeah ok , but why do we need to pay 10k more cuz of that , thats totally a rip -off.

They lost a client for the X cuz I wanted one so bad, but 10k of difference without anygood explaintion ... I won't give my money to theives, althought that I pay may RA 2006 6 000$ more then you because I didn't check that in first place...

So if someone knows something tell me , Im really pissed off

thanks

also , the MR Premium is starting a 52 000 $ here , so imagine , with taxes and options , its 60 000 $ ...
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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you can always have me buy you one and ship/drive it to you
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Blame Canada!
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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It's not just the EVO....it is all cars... do some research. When the Can $ was less strong to US $, the price diffs made sense. Now that US and Can $ are almost the same, Canadians do get shafted as the industry did not seem to adjust for it...
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Canada also has a slightly higher average wage than the U.S. Just like any other capitalist market, the manufacturer prices the car based on what the market will bear. That's kinda how capitalism is supposed to work...
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Well at least you have cheaper pharmaceutical drugs.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rootus
Canada also has a slightly higher average wage than the U.S. Just like any other capitalist market, the manufacturer prices the car based on what the market will bear. That's kinda how capitalism is supposed to work...
We also get taxed at a much high rate then you which evens out the net spendable income of the average family. Therefore the market can't support the additional costs, and capitalism fails fails again. It comes down to collaboration and monopolies, while one car manufacturer does not hold a monopoly on the industry all the manufacturers together have decided not to lower prices and have been successful at keeping prices high by using anti-competitive means. Capitalism works on paper and graphs, but in reality, Adam Smith's invisible hand will smack you upside the head every chance it gets.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Capitalism works on paper and graphs, but in reality, Adam Smith's invisible hand will smack you upside the head every chance it gets.
If it didn't work, shouldn't this be a self solving issue? They won't sell any cars. They do seem to be selling, though, so something must be working.

The issue of taxes is completely separate, and best left out of this conversation since we're on a car forum . Suffice it to say you get a bunch of services from your government we don't get, and so trying to say "we get taxed much more" doesn't really say much by itself.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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actually manufacturers are now starting to adjust their pricing in the Canadian market, subaru and bmw is all i know about but i am sure others will follow suit but appearently not mitsu

Originally Posted by xtnct
It's not just the EVO....it is all cars... do some research. When the Can $ was less strong to US $, the price diffs made sense. Now that US and Can $ are almost the same, Canadians do get shafted as the industry did not seem to adjust for it...
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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actually manufacturers are now starting to adjust their pricing in the Canadian market, subaru and bmw is all i know about but i am sure others will follow suit but appearently not mitsu
hmmm... example STI:
Starting at $44,995 (http://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?We...&WebSiteID=282)
Starting at $34,995 (http://www.subaru.com/shop/overview....mmand=overview)

Not sure that I agree with you... at least not yet.
Got any evidence that mitsu is NOT part of the "others" you mention that will follow suit?

Also, according to numbers from this posting:
Originally Posted by Lancerally_Mick
Can someone explain to me, why the EVO X as a MSRP of 33 000 $ in the US and in Canada the MSRP is 41 500 $
it appears that Mitsu is actually more fair than Subie is....22% price diff (subie) VS 20% (mitsu)

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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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^^^

Canadian STI comes loaded with BBS rims and navi and that is the only trim that is offered here.

US STI with BBS + NAVI is 39k-40k, so the difference is around 5-6k cnd/us.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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^^^

Canadian STI comes loaded with BBS rims and navi and that is the only trim that is offered here.

US STI with BBS + NAVI is 39k-40k, so the difference is around 5-6k cnd/us.
fair enough. thanks for the correction.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootus
Canada also has a slightly higher average wage than the U.S. Just like any other capitalist market, the manufacturer prices the car based on what the market will bear. That's kinda how capitalism is supposed to work...
awww Capitalism where the rich get richer and the poor get F$*#ed over and out
God bless america In canada its a not so much that different, just picture the Mafia running the show when it comes to taxes, bleeding you dry. lol joking. Canada is no diff then the USA, - taxes and health care its the same. I have worked in the USA at least in Arizona and NY.

back to why the price difference is still there. is because Mitsu as well as other companies dont want to shift their pricing too fast, because as you can see a currency situation can shift very quickly. as we saw with the Canadian currency going over the US dollar by 10 cents and then back down to even in a very short time.

these companies dont want to get into the habit of micro managing their pricing models. it frigs up projections and quarterlys and everything. Marketing and Financing depts nightmare.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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We also get taxed at a much high rate then you which evens out the net spendable income of the average family. Therefore the market can't support the additional costs, and capitalism fails fails again. It comes down to collaboration and monopolies, while one car manufacturer does not hold a monopoly on the industry all the manufacturers together have decided not to lower prices and have been successful at keeping prices high by using anti-competitive means. Capitalism works on paper and graphs, but in reality, Adam Smith's invisible hand will smack you upside the head every chance it gets.
Uh, no. I'm pretty sure you guys have anti-collusion laws (the exact economic term escapes me at the moment) which prevents companies from fixing pricing amongst their industry. However, the reason the price in your market is much higher than the US is the Canadian Dollar to Yen exchange rate. Right now, 1 Canadian Dollar can buy 104 Yen. An American dollar can buy 106 Yen. Also, as someone else mentioned, for your particular market, the average hourly Canadian wage is higher than the average hourly American wage by almost $4 ($20.39 after conversion compared to $16.76).

Then again, this analysis may be worthless because I compared the base price between the Lancer GTS for both markets, and there is only a $2000 price difference between the Canadian and American cars. Perhaps the reason there is a premium on the Evo (and even the STI) in Canada is because they won't be selling as many in that market? How many Evo VIIIs, IXs, and STIs did the Canadian market get?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cmbjive
Uh, no. I'm pretty sure you guys have anti-collusion laws (the exact economic term escapes me at the moment) which prevents companies from fixing pricing amongst their industry. However, the reason the price in your market is much higher than the US is the Canadian Dollar to Yen exchange rate. Right now, 1 Canadian Dollar can buy 104 Yen. An American dollar can buy 106 Yen. Also, as someone else mentioned, for your particular market, the average hourly Canadian wage is higher than the average hourly American wage by almost $4 ($20.39 after conversion compared to $16.76).

Then again, this analysis may be worthless because I compared the base price between the Lancer GTS for both markets, and there is only a $2000 price difference between the Canadian and American cars. Perhaps the reason there is a premium on the Evo (and even the STI) in Canada is because they won't be selling as many in that market? How many Evo VIIIs, IXs, and STIs did the Canadian market get?
We never got anything evo until the up coming release of evo x.

Not sure on the # of STI we get tho.
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