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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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aaaaand ... how does SST not equal an automatic transmission? The last time I checked a transmission that shifts by itself is ... ?automatic?

It will be very interesting to see how the SST stacks up to the VW/Audi DSG transmission, especially the newer ones, like the one found on my wife's R32 - the older A3 DSG was less impressive.

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"Automatics" have a torque converter to facilitate shifts. Dual Clutch Transmissions (DCT, DSG, SST, etc.) have an automatic shift "mode" but are still technically manuals since they use clutches, just like BMW's SMG isn't an automatic. Just like the sequential gearboxes in F1 cars and WRC rally cars aren't automatics.

Semantics, yes, but the SST won't drive or feel like an automatic by any means. Heck, they're faster and more efficient than a manual. And they still have a manual shift mode.

- Patrick
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Just ignore him like the rest of us do. The verbal diarrhea he spills could fill a dumptruck.

This is classic!
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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so,um, what happened to this review? haha
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Vostok 7
"Automatics" have a torque converter to facilitate shifts. Dual Clutch Transmissions (DCT, DSG, SST, etc.) have an automatic shift "mode" but are still technically manuals since they use clutches, just like BMW's SMG isn't an automatic. Just like the sequential gearboxes in F1 cars and WRC rally cars aren't automatics.

Semantics, yes, but the SST won't drive or feel like an automatic by any means. Heck, they're faster and more efficient than a manual. And they still have a manual shift mode.

- Patrick
Good to hear! I'm getting excited now....
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dave12285
so,um, what happened to this review? haha
This is the way EvoM works. A review is reviewed before there is actually a review
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
aaaaand ... how does SST not equal an automatic transmission? The last time I checked a transmission that shifts by itself is ... ?automatic?

It will be very interesting to see how the SST stacks up to the VW/Audi DSG transmission, especially the newer ones, like the one found on my wife's R32 - the older A3 DSG was less impressive.

l8r)
The SST transmission can rev match down shifts, thats quite unlike an automatic.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by eddie
Just ignore him like the rest of us do. The verbal diarrhea he spills could fill a dumptruck.
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At the local dealers. Fully optioned at over 40K.
LOL.... exactly...
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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They better lower the price of the GSr when the MR comes out..
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Vostok 7
Yay! More uneducated SST haters! I'm glad you all know so much about a transmission you all haven't even driven yet.

SST does not equal Automatic.

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So there's no full auto mode? You can't just step on the gas and go, letting the car shift for you? I'm not sure which part of my joke was inaccurate?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Vostok 7
"Automatics" have a torque converter to facilitate shifts. Dual Clutch Transmissions (DCT, DSG, SST, etc.) have an automatic shift "mode" but are still technically manuals since they use clutches, just like BMW's SMG isn't an automatic. Just like the sequential gearboxes in F1 cars and WRC rally cars aren't automatics.

Semantics, yes, but the SST won't drive or feel like an automatic by any means. Heck, they're faster and more efficient than a manual. And they still have a manual shift mode.

- Patrick
SST=Semi-Manual

Manual=Manual

I win you lose
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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IMO the safest bet is to stick to calling it DSG, as that describes it accurately and independently from manufacturer. It's not an automatic in the traditional sense, nor is it a manual in the traditional sense.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NurSpecSupport
SST=Semi-Manual

Manual=Manual

I win you lose
In F1 they actually refer to it as a Semi-Automatic, but its probably the same thing you meant
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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*sigh* Just keep fearing change, people. *joins the bandwagon* Progress sucks! The Evo X MR represents progress and therefore it sucks!

- Patrick
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Vostok 7
*sigh* Just keep fearing change, people. *joins the bandwagon* Progress sucks! The Evo X MR represents progress and therefore it sucks!

- Patrick
lol it's fun watching how worked up people get just because someone jokes about a transmission.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rane
lol it's fun watching how worked up people get just because someone jokes about a transmission.


Hey, at least you could have said that the MR is only for gimps and women. I mean, that's what NASIOC would do!

- Patrick

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