...and what do you think?

On the MR you can manually shift via the paddles, or the stick......however, I just realized that when shifting manually w/ the stick, you have to pull the stick back to upshift, and push it forward to downshift.

This seems *** backwards to me. Logically, pushing forward seems like it should be the upshift. I'm sure I'll get used to it (failing that, I'll just use the paddles).......but does anyone else have an opinion on this? Is there a legitimate reason for doing it this way that I'm not thinking of?

KiL

PS- I did search but didn't find anything (I'm always terrible with using the search feature effectively).....so apologies if this has been addressed.

 

Pushing down on the stick is how you shift up on sequential transmissions, and push up to shift down, check out some in car footage of JGTC cars. The reason for it, not really sure, but I always thought it made sense.

Jon

 

i think the 350z is the same. i drove one of those w/ the auto w/ "sport shift" and thought the same thing. it just didnt feel right.

 

My thought on this is if you’re accelerating and hang on to the stick and it down shifts by pulling back you might down shift into a lower gear in high RPMs. So if it up shifts by pulling back it works with the g-forces. Just my 2 common cents.

 

Thanks for the info......I've never driven any sequential manuals........only a few "manumatics," and of those, it's always been forward to upshift.

But for the last poster who said it may have something to do with the physics.....being shoved back in your seat at full acceleration.......hey, maybe you're on to something.

KiL

 

yep works just like my JGTC, so im used to it

 

Exactly correct. Shift-up is accompanied by the G's when accelerating out of a corner, Shift-down is helped by the G's when braking into a corner. It's logical and makes perfect sense. Now imagine the above scenario with the motions reversed, now that is ***-backwards (too bad it's common on most autos today).

 

its how bmw and audi is too.

 

Nope, it's normal. That's how the DSG tranny in my Audi A3 works. It feels fine.

EDIT: I just realized that I misread your statement. Actually the Audi DSG tranny is the OPPOSITE. The "+" or upshift is done by nudging the gear selector forward and the "-" or downshift is done by pulling the gear selector down or towards you. That's what I am used to and can't imagine it being the opposite! So actually I agree with you in that it's messed up. LOL.

 

Down is how I go into 2nd and up into 3rd and down into 4th.

It's a combo of up and down, you'll get used to it....

 

yep.

 

I guess I'm just so used to the fact that on an auto, Park is at the top, and 1 is at the bottom. If that was reversed, it would throw me off.

Then there's the fact that I just have this sense sort of ingrained in my psyche that things should increase going left to right, or backwards to forwards.

But, like I said, I'm sure I'd get used to it.....it may be a little awkward for me at first though.

As for the idea that it's set up that way due to the forces of acceleration and deceleration, I don't know that I buy it.....or agree with the logic. I mean honestly, if you stomp the gas and the effort to move the stick forward to upshift is too much for you because of the acceleration forces.....you may have some type of medical problem that is causing dramatic weakness (or you don't visit Palmela Handerson enough ).

KiL

PS- The only experience I have w/ a manual transmission is my dirtbike.....where kicking the pedal up shifts up, kicking it down shifts down......and I kind of equate up to forward, down to backward....as going up and down seems to me like a similar motion to going forward and backward (respectively).

 

well on the bike the force will lift up your feet when you accelerate, and your feet kinda falling forward and down when you slow down.
so its a simular thing.

 

Well, if that's the case, I have never once felt that the force of speeding up or slowing down in any way affected my ability to move my foot upward or downward.

If the effect was that great, then you'd expect to have to push the brake lever on the handle rather than pull it. And we can also make a comparison to Sea Doos.....where you have to push the throttle forward with your thumb. The Sea Doo owners I've met and talked to haven't seemed to mind or feel that their ability to accelerate was hindered because of it.

So I just think the logic is kinda silly.....if in fact they set it up that way for THAT reason.

KiL

 

When my wife get her audi with the triptonic , that really was akward for me.
not to mention how slow is that tranny in "sport" mode...

even the sequiential tranny working a same way . towards you is up, toward the dashboard is down.