Thanks for posting your thoughts. Good luck with the GT-R.

Can you tell us more about the road course testing? Maybe just telling us which track would help. The numbers do seem like a little bit on the unbelievable side because of such a big gap between the two cars. Not saying it isn't legit, but more information about the track might help with understanding the difference (for instance, lots of straights could explain some of the difference).

Thanks guys.

 

i am sorry but what i cannot comprehend is you buying a new car and selling it after 1200 miles, suppose you have money to waste.

even further, if you are going to use this car for racing or want it to go as fast as you can, friggin, strip it of the airbags, rear seat, trunk stuff, put on lighter wheels, brakes suspension, etc, and your X could become an VIII or IX Killa

then you talk about the X tuning ability, huh? Dude, there is not a program or piggyback in the US of in Japan for that matter (as far as i can tell) can fully tune an evo yet, what are you smoking?

you refer to your self as "we" and they your screen-name is "FullBoostRacing" do you actually own a shop or have a race team or something? Please say no because if you say yes, thats an embarrasement.

You dont see AMS, Buschur, and others selling theirs do you?

 

Thank you for the honest assessment on the Evo X.

As the OP said, the X is not as "racy" as the previous generations. I'm not sure why Mitsu moved in this direction of more luxury, comfort and higher price. However, I do believe that a lot of Evo VIII and IX owners out there don't track or race their cars at all. A lot of them just drive it back and forth to work everyday and "pose" with it on the weekends as they cruise around town and talk about all the mods they have. So for this group it makes sense since they are not tracking or racing the car. But for the rest of us, we want something that out performs the previous generations, not a car that is slower.

 

Wow, first off those numbers you posted, even for the IX are really really horrible. I cant imagine an IX pulling a 14.2 unless the driver doesnt know how to drive. Hell, I didnt launch and still pulled a 13.8 bone stock in an IX. WOW, with all the hype latly on how much power is being extracted from the X, and you guys go and sell yours, wow...but whatever floats your boat.

 

Quite simply, they want to sell more cars to a broader audience.

 

I really dont know what is luxury, or comfort about the X, that everyone is talking about. Cruise control, Nav, heated seats, nicer recaros...??? If those features are what makes a luxury car luxury then I must be living in a different world. Yea most evo owners dont track there car, but I would say that most owners will mod the car, and do not care what stock numbers are. Hell 13's is not fast, the IX stock was never fast, quick but not fast, and if everyone is bi*ching about tenths of seconds then, they should consider a different ar.

 

they are in the business of selling owners go-fast parts, so why would they sell it?

 

No Sh*t- My dad's going to retire soon and he wants a X!!!

He came up to me last weekend at my neice's B-day party and told me and my wife that he saw an ad for the Evo X and he was going to go test drive one

I said hell yes pop then I can spank your a$$ instead of the other way around all these years!!

 

this is one brave post however against the X lovers!

 

Its official, I really hate this site. I really do, its one stupid comment after another, Cant take it anymore, this was once a site for all evo owners to merge and just talk cars, now its divided into IX lovers, and X lovers. Too much bs posted on this site, its like the blind leading the blind, and it gets quite annoying, good riddens to all, enjoy all your arguements and controversy.

 

Very interesting data and opinions you got there. I find the numbers hard to believe. Get ready to type a lot. Good luck with the GT-R, I hope it won't disappoint you, or I hope it DOES feel like a GT-R to you! jkjk

 

Well it does kind of suck knowing that you have to mod your 33k-40k X right off the showroom floor just to keep up with an IX or VIII, Just remember first impression is everything.

 

In MY OPINION, FBR is right about it not feeling like an evo. An evo is not suppose to be a soft cushy car. It is meant to be raw. It is meant to be light and have the ability to be thrown around like a red-headed stepchild. Sure the X is faster in long sweeping turns due to the AYC.... Look at the slalom though. Did anyone watch the most recent "new" Top Gear about lighter cars being better... Do you forget just how happy mazda was when the RX8 was 100 pounds lighter than the RX7? If the X floats your boat, cool. That is fine with me. Different strokes for different folks.

 

Before I logoff for a while just some quick thoughts.

When I say "we" FullboostRacing are a shop/store, we just do not have a vendor agreement with Evom so I do not throw the name around on here.

Both cars are GSR's factory equipment on 93 oct. no tuning, no parts, stock everything even tires.
Conditions:
1/4 mile - temp was 72deg, 90% humidity, dry.
Road course - temp was 68deg, 62% humidity, wet track from earlier rain.
Auto X - temp was 70deg, 86% humidity. Dry.

Drivers:
One driver used to be a NASA HPDE driving instructor and the other has been hopping from strip to road course for the last 5 or so years but has been doing 1/4 mile since the mid 90's. To say the least I have every bit of confidence in their driving ability. More than my own in fact.

Tracks:
1/4 mile Houston Raceway Park
Road course MSR Houston
Auto X our / target parking lot

I was also surprised at the X's road course times as both drivers stated it slid more then grabbed traction in almost every turn compared to the IX.

As far as parts for the X go, I bet there will be a ton of modded X's in the near future because of all the shops out there making parts. I am also sure I will be impressed by the numbers there pulling.

We are not rolling in the dough so 33K is a big investment for us on top of the modded IX we have plus the 240sx we have been building. The only logical thing to do was find an IX that was still stock and go toe to toe with our X. After we tested them both we came to the conclusion if the IX is a better starting platform then the X for EVO's we are just by keep the IX over the X in development terms.

So I am not hating on X I just wanted to see what kind of investment we were getting our shop into (with an IX all ready on hand). After seeing the big differences in times compared to the Road and track plus the ton of other reviews out there it left us skewed and confused just like a lot of you with our numbers.

The new owner of the X has been around from day one and knows we broke the X in (1000 miles) before doing all this testing. So he bought the car for 500 less then what we paid for it and he is happy as can be getting ready to order a bunch of AMS stuff for it.

This was our testing to help validate keeping the X, I just wanted to share the results with all of you guys as there were a lot different then most magazines...

I bet we could have found a new STI stock and maybe an old STI stock, I am sure that would have added a whole new face to these test.

 

your IX went .7 seconds slower in the 1/4 than I did in my STOCK 03!.

Looks like i'm higher up than you also. wow. You should've known what you got from this testing before you bought the X.
You could've upped the X to 20 insted of 13 lbs like the IX. And then tested I have a feeling you beat yourself out of a good market.

you have to spend money to make money