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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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its still more hp stock than a 9 .... You can say "huskier".... LOL

But the handling is razor sharp... I can add power to a evo X... And 9.... I can los weight on an X .... And 9..... I can't add SAWC (ayc) etc... To the Evo 9

You cannot say the Evo X is a raw and for some people that's great... Some of use need 9/10ths that rawness with 1/10th civility to run our daily lives

The Evo 9 does one thing GREAT ... The Evo X does everything "very" good

I love sports analogies... So I have a running back who is only fast....but can't catch well out of the backfield.... Or I have another back who is almost , close to, just as fast, maybe a bit more shifty and catches much better out of the backfield.... Who do you want?

Its all about versatility
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bmwretard
OMGFOMG. Yes, God's Chariot:






Did I mention there are two of them? Anyway, the motors/trannys are being installed now. Should get to drive one in the next few days.

Things I noticed:
1) They're huge. Whale-like. Massive. Biggest friggin 2-door I've ever seen.
2) The interiors are crap. They're going to have to work on this to sway Porsche owners.
3) Lots of attention to detail with the aero/underbody work. Ducts and passages going everywhere. Carbon fiber undertray in the back. Very cool.
4) Driveshaft madness. Main shaft, half shalfs, transfer shafts... more shafts than a car should have room for.
5) Overall a very trick car, but a huge/heavy/flawed design to turn into a performance car.
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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^ flawed design? 0-60 in 3.3 and a 11.6 1/4 ?? 7:38 on the ring (everyone uses a racecar driver.... corvette did to)

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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by billyblonco
A lot of people complaining either just bought an X or waiting to buy an X, you guys might feel the same way he does when all the HYPE and newness of the X wears off and you have to make that $500-$600 monthly payment for an underpowered evo.
It's amazing the amount of hate on here for the X. I've owned 3 Evos since '03 and I wouldn't trade the X for a VIII or IX if you paid me. The X is also faster than both my others were stock. So, thanks, I'll make my monthly payments and be content in the fact that I made the right choice.
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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It's amazing the amount of hate on here for the X. I've owned 3 Evos since '03 and I wouldn't trade the X for a VIII or IX if you paid me. The X is also faster than both my others were stock. So, thanks, I'll make my monthly payments and be content in the fact that I made the right choice.
I wasn't aware that "hype" was even part of the criteria for purchasing a car.
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
I wasn't aware that "hype" was even part of the criteria for purchasing a car.
Apparently we all went out and bought the X based on advertising and magazine reviews. We were lead, blindly, by the media to the Mitsubishi dealership and simply plopped down our hard earned cash on a car we chose based on hype. The fact that we like the looks, the interior, and the performance never came into play as we are simply sheep.

It could be worse: there's a ton of people on this site that bought VIIIs because they played them in Gran Turismo or watched The Fast and The Furious. But, yeah, we bought our cars based on hype.
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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i love the 8, 9 and 10.... i dont see why you cant like them all... you can prefer something your more comfortable with thats a proven commodity.... or be an early adopter of a new technology and engine.... being on a new front line is great, i love it... its one of the main reasons I bought the VIII....

what more can be done with a 4G63 that 100 people havent done already?

try the new engine, try the SAWC/AYC, and feel how SOLID the new chassis is...
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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check car magazine's test ona tough road course

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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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from a gtr site...

When the USDM spec GT-R is introduced, it will be speed-limited only by hitting redline (7K) in sixth gear. No artificial limits will be set by the ECU. Rumors that Nissan will use GPS tracking to determine if the car is at a racetrack before removing them (like JDM models) are simply not true.

If you want me to confirm my sources, all I can tell you is a little springtime bird whispered in my ear! Look for continuing coverage of the GT-R in Nissan Sport Magazine.

David Muramoto
Editor-in-Chief
Nissan Sport Magazine

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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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I still think what I said in my first post sums it up best:
"I know a lot of you guys love the X and we are not trying to bash it, it’s just not up to EVO par in our eyes having them both first hand to play with. In fact the guy we sold the X to loves it and we were glad to point him to the vendors making parts for the X and showing good results doing so. But for us at Fullboostracing the X is just not enough compared to the IX.

So in the end the 33,000 we were going to spend on the Evo X is now being rolled into a GT-R purchase when they come out.

All you X guys please enjoy your EVO's we are not trying to put you down just wanted to show everyone the results we got from our own testing."

There were also some things on our EVOX that did not match on all the popular testing from magazines. Our X was a SSS that had 447lbs on the IX, factor that weight in with the wet road course we were on and I believe that why there were such big margins in time. What was hard to watch on the road course was when the X was taking short hard turns it would almost turn into a drift unlike the IX that more just dove into the apex with no traction issues.

Here is the Road course we ran, every red circle is when the X would break traction, BUT on the wide turns the X did yield a bit better on time, its just when it hit the smaller turns it lost it. Also on the straights the IX would walk away from the X. I know some of theses times have big gaps, but when the races were going down you could see the difference visually and not just on paper.

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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FullBoostRacing
Testing cars:
Stock GSR IX vs. Stock GSR X

Drivers:
2 drives with 10+ years racing experience.

Test:
1/4 drag, Road course, and our parking lot auto X

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Results:
1/4 driver 1 IX GSR - 14.2 / 14.0 / 14.0
1/4 driver 2 IX GSR - 14.1 / 14.2 / 13.9

1/4 driver 1 X GSR - 14.5 / 14.4 / 14.4
1/4 driver 2 X GSR - 14.3 / 14.5 / 14.7
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Road course driver 1 IX GSR - 2:31 / 2:15 / 2.18
Road course driver 2 IX GSR - 2:25 / 2:32 / 2:20

Road course driver 1 X GSR - 2:46 / 2:42 / 2.39
Road course driver 2 X GSR - 2:42 / 2:43 / 2:45
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Auto X driver 1 IX GSR - 32.6 / 33.1 / 33.4
Auto X driver 2 IX GSR - 33.8 / 32.8 / 32.2

Auto X driver 1 X GSR - 35.4 / 34.2 / 32.4
Auto X driver 2 X GSR - 34.8 / 34.5 / 33.9
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- As a NASA TTer, i dont understand why the road course times are so far apart. Can someone explain to me why there is such a huge gap in time on the road course? The fastest Evo 9 time was a 2:15, where the Evo X couldnt do better than 2:39? Thats 24 seconds. That doesnt make sense. I would also like to see some more detailed times, eg 2:15.385, 2:39.274.

- What road course was this at? Which configuration? And was it CW or CCW?

- If the 2 drivers have 10+ years of racing experience, why are their times so far off of one another? Their fastest times are anywhere from 3-5 seconds apart. At worst, i would expect their times to be no more than a second apart, if not, within tenths.

Im sorry, but there are too many pages to sort through. Besides, my eyes were hurting trying to read through all the nonsense. And im guessing these questions have been answered. Perhaps someone could direct me towards the page, or the post #'s that cover these issues directly.
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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^^^ that is really far apart, I am not into the X and thats just my opinion...But this thread is too much of a toll thread. It really should be lock and OP should make a new thread on the FS page
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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24 seconds haha! The X must suck. Sounds like VERY good pro drivers too, with those consistent times and all... I don't really care what people say about the car good or bad, but really, 24 seconds? Cmon. Count it out loud.
Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FullBoostRacing
I still think what I said in my first post sums it up best:
"I know a lot of you guys love the X and we are not trying to bash it, it’s just not up to EVO par in our eyes having them both first hand to play with. In fact the guy we sold the X to loves it and we were glad to point him to the vendors making parts for the X and showing good results doing so. But for us at Fullboostracing the X is just not enough compared to the IX.

So in the end the 33,000 we were going to spend on the Evo X is now being rolled into a GT-R purchase when they come out.

All you X guys please enjoy your EVO's we are not trying to put you down just wanted to show everyone the results we got from our own testing."

There were also some things on our EVOX that did not match on all the popular testing from magazines. Our X was a SSS that had 447lbs on the IX, factor that weight in with the wet road course we were on and I believe that why there were such big margins in time. What was hard to watch on the road course was when the X was taking short hard turns it would almost turn into a drift unlike the IX that more just dove into the apex with no traction issues.

Here is the Road course we ran, every red circle is when the X would break traction, BUT on the wide turns the X did yield a bit better on time, its just when it hit the smaller turns it lost it. Also on the straights the IX would walk away from the X. I know some of theses times have big gaps, but when the races were going down you could see the difference visually and not just on paper.
OK, here I call BS. I lapped MSR Houston in1:58 in my 8 with cat back/MBC/tune and stock wheels/rubber in 1:58 and one of the Miata racers, who I let drive, did it in 1:55. Please explain to me how your skilled drivers did it in 25+ seconds more. It doesn't compute. You're comparing, albeit poor, drivers here and not cars. Even if the car had standing water on every bend it would not equate to that large of a time differenece. Hell, I lapped 2 minutes dead in my 996 C4 in light rain.

And 447 lbs? Did you buy the ultra lightweight special edition IX? My VIII, with me in it, was over 3,600.

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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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This is getting a bit old, I am done with this thread. Take this info for what you will, this what we got none the less.



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