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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus

So, does anyone want to buy a 997S?
I'll give you $20 and a 6 pack (with 4 still in it!)
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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RONMCDON: No awd cars more enjoyable than a balanced rwd car!

Have you ever driven a GTR?

Obviously not! lol J/K
Well I did say none that I can think of (I'll admit I was a bit unimaginative ), but you do bring a good point in a way. I haven't ever driven anything with the rwd-biased Attesa AWD unit, so that would be interesting for the sake of comparison indeed.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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Many thanks for the insightful comparison. Although I've never driven a 997, I share most your sentiments compared to several fr rwd cars I've driven in the past. Several AWD cars out there also grip very well, but there are none that I can think of that are just as if not more enjoyable that a well balanced rwd car.

That being said, my intuitive guess is that the 997 probably isn't the most forgiving rwd choice out there. Performance withstanding, perhaps you would have enjoyed a more forgiving Cayman (got to test drive a friend's car, and enjoyed it very much) or a M-coupe. I always find that a car I feel comfortable to push hard is one where I enjoy more. No fun to push a car if the constant fear of crashing it is there.
Agreed. While the new cars are much tamer than their trailing arm rear suspension predecessors, they still take a trained hand to properly drive them. The car satisfied a childhood dream and don't regret buying it but I certainly doubt I'd buy another new one. I would love to eventually own an air cooled classic just to putt around in on beautiful Saturday afternoons.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
What continues to amaze me is that Mitsubishi, which frankly is far from a top tier manufacturer with a less than stellar reputation in the world market, can build a car that feels like an honest sports car out of a heavy economy sedan.
mitsubishi actually has better reputation world wide than at the US. Their cars command better value than most japanese cars.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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So I took my 997S out today (I drive it about once/week) to get the cobwebs off and I can't help but end up comparing it to my new X. Obviously, they are both two very different ways of going fast. The 997S is gruff and organic. The motor howls and its traction is very mechanical and the way it grips is very honest; when you start to lose traction in the front, it's very gradually from soft to heavy understeer. The rear is practically unmovable unless you're doing something very, very stupid. The engine is linear in its power delivery.

Now, driving the X, I can't help but feel that its a more precise tool. The chassis feels stiffer and easier to toss, you simply cannot upset the chassis with any mid-corner bumps or corrections, and as we all know, the car cannot understeer but even when it allows you to get the rear rotating, it does so in a way that never makes you feel like you've lost confidence. I consider myself a bit of a Luddite in terms of automotive technology but for the wizardry of the Evos really has caused me to become a bit of a hypocrite, most likely because the car never loses its ability to involve the driver in its equation, even if it does make you feel as if you're the weakest link in the performance equation.

While both can achieve similar cornering speeds, I feel the X does so with more confidence. The differential and weight distribution allows the car to do things that don't seem human with an amateur driver such as myself. The only thing that undermines this is its uneven power delivery which adds an air of charm to the car although the 997 sounds definitively better and more mechanical. Strangely, the X's shifter is less vague and more direct.

Overall, the 997 really trumps the X in one major category and that's the overall build quality. While I appreciate the character of the 911 with its classic lines and awesome soundtrack, it's the X that I yearn to drive. I'm actually considering returning the 911 to my house at lunch to retrieve the X. Another item to note is that the X rides nicer than the 911 however the 911 does ride on Bilstein PSS coilovers.

So, does anyone want to buy a 997S?

I don't know why I typed this up; I guess I felt like comparing the X to something that honestly doesn't draw a normal comparison. I really can't say enough good things about this car. My gripes are the obvious: I don't care for some of the interior materials, it really needs 6 gears for everyday driving, and the motor, while better sounding than the 4G63, does sound a bit hollow and uninspired. All of these complaints though I consider minor, especially consider how much car you really get for the price tag.

Now, I can't wait until the spring when the tracks start opening up...
It's funny, as I was scrolling through the forums, I said to myself "I love this car." Then I happened to see your post. Found that kind of amusing. But anyways, I think you described this cars nature perfectly. Its just such a joy to drive. I find myself making useless trips, just go for a ride. Once I'm back home, I'm thinking of new excuses to go back out. I've never had such a strong passion for a car.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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WOW, you guys make me want to buy a X to compliment my VIII
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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beautiful 911....gotta love it
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