How much power is too much?
I daily drive my IX now and it's somewhere in the low 400's. I wouldnt say it's too much. Not like your being forced to use the power all the time...
My advice would be a progressive mod path, unless you are super rich, which you are not, else you would not be buying an Evo X!
Example of Progressive Power Mod path:
Stage 1a:
Cat back exhaust
Drop-in Filter
Tune
Stage 1b:
02 Downpipe
Test pipe/High Flow Cat
Retune
Stage 2:
Meth/H20 Injection
Retune
Stage 2 (alternate)
E85 Conversion + supporting mods
Retune
Stage 3
Turbo upgrade + supporting mods
FMIC
Clutch upgrade
Retune
Stage 4
At this point your car is a monster and you have an uncurable disease that makes you want more and more power. Start yanking weight off the car.
Example of Progressive Power Mod path:
Stage 1a:
Cat back exhaust
Drop-in Filter
Tune
Stage 1b:
02 Downpipe
Test pipe/High Flow Cat
Retune
Stage 2:
Meth/H20 Injection
Retune
Stage 2 (alternate)
E85 Conversion + supporting mods
Retune
Stage 3
Turbo upgrade + supporting mods
FMIC
Clutch upgrade
Retune
Stage 4
At this point your car is a monster and you have an uncurable disease that makes you want more and more power. Start yanking weight off the car.
You'll only want more power when someone beats you at the track, so in a sense, my advise is mod and upgrade your power according to your budget. Dont go overboard and end up selling all your mods because you cant afford to get it installed or tuned right.
Evolving Member
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: CT
A couple standard bolt ons + tune are more than enough for some fun daily driving. According to a couple X owners around on this board, these mods will be plenty-
Cold air intake
CBE
02
Test Pipe
UICP
FMIC
Expert Tune
These will put you to around 330~340 WHP, which happens to be a sweet spot because your car isn't making enough power to warrant a new clutch, and you can still daily drive it comfortably.
Cold air intake
CBE
02
Test Pipe
UICP
FMIC
Expert Tune
These will put you to around 330~340 WHP, which happens to be a sweet spot because your car isn't making enough power to warrant a new clutch, and you can still daily drive it comfortably.
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Joined: May 2009
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From: UT Austin
exactly what i wuold have said as far as power.. 330-345
Hello, I have been interested in Evolutions ever since the VIII came to the states. I have also been on and off this forum for quite awhile just looking at the pictures and really deciding if i wanted one. Well, I'll be graduating college soon and I'm pretty sure I'm dead set on an X. I just have a few questions and I'm sorry if they have been answered before, I searched but I may have used a wrong phrase or keyword.
How much hp do you think is "too much" for a dd? I saw a video on Inside Line of a modded X vs a GT-R. I was actually really intrigued by it and think I would like to attempt a project like that myself. I believe the X was modded to around 430hp and beat it in an overall average time around Willow.
I guess really my main concern isn't the power per se as the GT-R has 485 I believe and it is still used as a dd for some people (maybe? haha). But would 430-450hp be too much for an MR or would the GSR be better equipped to handle that much power? Or am I waaaay off and 450hp is more suited for the track? If 450 IS too much for an MR what would be the "limit" before it can no longer really be used as a dd? Also i would like to take it to the track every once and awhile if that also influences my decision on an MR or GSR? Sorry if some of these are dumb questions. I honestly really have no idea haha.
Thanks everyone
How much hp do you think is "too much" for a dd? I saw a video on Inside Line of a modded X vs a GT-R. I was actually really intrigued by it and think I would like to attempt a project like that myself. I believe the X was modded to around 430hp and beat it in an overall average time around Willow.
I guess really my main concern isn't the power per se as the GT-R has 485 I believe and it is still used as a dd for some people (maybe? haha). But would 430-450hp be too much for an MR or would the GSR be better equipped to handle that much power? Or am I waaaay off and 450hp is more suited for the track? If 450 IS too much for an MR what would be the "limit" before it can no longer really be used as a dd? Also i would like to take it to the track every once and awhile if that also influences my decision on an MR or GSR? Sorry if some of these are dumb questions. I honestly really have no idea haha.
Thanks everyone
when you start loosing grip and constantly breaking parts.
Then you know you have too much power and you need upgrade parts .
Or you have too much power for what you doing or how you doing it.
Example autoX.
Then you know you have too much power and you need upgrade parts .
Or you have too much power for what you doing or how you doing it.
Example autoX.
Even almost 10K miles and couple track days my toyo R888 looked much better then my OEM tires on the CT9A cars .
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Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Jupiter, Florida
ahahahaha. too funny.
First off, OP, this has to be one of the best written posts I've ever seen. If I was a gay male, I'd want to date you. Hell, I'm so hetero it hurts, and I'm sort of attracted to you. Just a little. Few beers, and I'd hit on you.
Anyways...
I think the first question everyone needs to answer is "what is my goal". Is your goal, literally, to go and race GT-Rs at the track? Or is it primarily a "Hah! With the power I have, if I ever saw a GT-R, which I never will, since I live in Northern Freaking Kentucky, I'd have the power to beat him!" Which is a fine goal to have, mind you, its just worth thinking about.
400WHP is fairly easily attainable with a stock-frame turbo swap and associated bolt ons. It seems to be more or less par for the course for FP Green, FP Red, Blouch 2.0. These mods aren't really expensive or "Dangerous" per say.
The horsepower limit of the MR is more attributed to the limitations of the SST, and more so the limitations of not having cracked the TCU. If (or when, depending on how aroused gunzo is about the project
) the TCU gets cracked, the electronic limitations will be removed; and since the internals can already be upgraded by SSP, well, it's a whole new game.
So really, currently, the GSR would be a better choice to handle 450+WHP. And honestly, I can't really imagine a time when a standard clutch-transmission setup won't be more "reliable" than a new fangled SST that runs on love, cinnamon snaps, and unicorn blood.
Anyways...
I think the first question everyone needs to answer is "what is my goal". Is your goal, literally, to go and race GT-Rs at the track? Or is it primarily a "Hah! With the power I have, if I ever saw a GT-R, which I never will, since I live in Northern Freaking Kentucky, I'd have the power to beat him!" Which is a fine goal to have, mind you, its just worth thinking about.
400WHP is fairly easily attainable with a stock-frame turbo swap and associated bolt ons. It seems to be more or less par for the course for FP Green, FP Red, Blouch 2.0. These mods aren't really expensive or "Dangerous" per say.
The horsepower limit of the MR is more attributed to the limitations of the SST, and more so the limitations of not having cracked the TCU. If (or when, depending on how aroused gunzo is about the project
) the TCU gets cracked, the electronic limitations will be removed; and since the internals can already be upgraded by SSP, well, it's a whole new game. So really, currently, the GSR would be a better choice to handle 450+WHP. And honestly, I can't really imagine a time when a standard clutch-transmission setup won't be more "reliable" than a new fangled SST that runs on love, cinnamon snaps, and unicorn blood.
