beaterX, round 2: time for blue!
beaterX, round 2: time for blue!
Other thread is getting a little long and past the dates I had posted with it, so time for a new one. Round 2 began with a few emails, I'll paraphrase as a phone convo. This is about how it went:
scheides: 'hey man, it's scheides. I'm ready.'
chad: 'ok, you want the little one, or the big one?'
scheides: 'big one, duh.'
chad: ' a'ight den, it'll be in the mail on Tuesday.'
I have an AutoX test & tune on August 8th, hopefully I can get it in and running low boost by then. Other projects for round two include finishing the body work (prolly 3-4 weeks out on that), clean up a few interior pieces, and just continue to focus on driving this thing. I have 760 miles on the new clutch already, so I think I'll try and get to the drag track one more time this year, once everything else is sorted.
Stay tuned!
scheides: 'hey man, it's scheides. I'm ready.'
chad: 'ok, you want the little one, or the big one?'
scheides: 'big one, duh.'
chad: ' a'ight den, it'll be in the mail on Tuesday.'
I have an AutoX test & tune on August 8th, hopefully I can get it in and running low boost by then. Other projects for round two include finishing the body work (prolly 3-4 weeks out on that), clean up a few interior pieces, and just continue to focus on driving this thing. I have 760 miles on the new clutch already, so I think I'll try and get to the drag track one more time this year, once everything else is sorted.
Stay tuned!
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Thanks guys! Yes this came with CBRD's port job, and the turbine housing is off and will be coated at MAP today. Hoping to get this thing bolted up this weekend! All of my install parts are coming into Brookdale Mitsu tomorrow.
I'll have better pics of everything soon
I'll have better pics of everything soon
-Jalal
I just have an end goal in sight, and until I get there I'm pretty relentless. Once the turbo is on (and a few things to go with it afterwards) things will slow up a bit. I've always said if I ever get an X, it would be a good basic setup: pump gas, BBX (or similar), stock cams, and then add a few misc bolt-ons to go with it as time goes on. After I pulled a dukes-o-hazard with my evo8, got through the part-out and found an X, this was my goal. The rest will come with time
So let's see, got the turbo Wednesday, was supposed to help Rosey with brakes Thursday. His parts weren't in so I went ahead and started ripping my car apart Thursday night. Thursday morning I had an interview and dropped off the hotside at Modern Automotive Performance to get ceramic coated (it already had a good, basic port job by CBRD). Got home late, helped Anna with some stuff around the house and then got busy. mlomker showed up to put his WGA arm back on and ended up sticking around to hand me wrenches, hold the light, and generally motivate me! I got about 2.5 hours or so in and called it quits, the bolt holding the turbine housing to the block was all that remained.
Friday after work trevor came over and we went to town. I made a joke long ago when doing an IM install on my evo8 that this would be similar to doing a turbo on an X. Boy was I wrong. An IM weighs like 5 pounds, all aluminum. A turbo weighs like 35 pounds with the o2 housing, clunky and awkward as FOK to get out.
Shortly after this pic was taken, Anna walked up and started poking me in the *** and I threatened to kick her in the face...I was frustrated, she didn't like it too much, I felt really bad
Sorry baby.
Lots of room once the turbo is out, but it's about to get filled again:
The BBX comp wheel kinda dwarfs the stocker. It's not a 4202 or anything, but this is actually a pretty sizable turbo. 58lbs/min.
After a bite, we swung over to MAP and got the turbine housing. THANK YOU Modern Automotive Performance for the QUICK TURNAROUND! These guys do great work.
After a few hours the turbo was back in and we fired up the car. Thank god, no leaks! I put ALL new copper crushwashers and gaskets in, save for the head-manifold, manifold-turbo, and turbo-o2 housing gaskets. Oh, FUN FACT! My stock turbo had no gasket on the compressor outlet, to the comp outlet pipe. Unreal. It didn't leak though, when I tested it. I put one on this time :P
Made a few laps around the block and 24psi on the 100% stock fuel system I'm seeing 11:1 afr up to about 5500, that's as high as I've taken it for now. I'm going to try and turn it down and rev it out, then slowly turn up the boost and try find the limit of the stock fuel system. I have a set of 800cc injectors to go in sometime in the near future, and asked Shane@DB Performance to give me a shout if he has any last-minute cancellations next week. For now, I'll just drive the thing, log it, and start enjoying!
Friday after work trevor came over and we went to town. I made a joke long ago when doing an IM install on my evo8 that this would be similar to doing a turbo on an X. Boy was I wrong. An IM weighs like 5 pounds, all aluminum. A turbo weighs like 35 pounds with the o2 housing, clunky and awkward as FOK to get out.
Shortly after this pic was taken, Anna walked up and started poking me in the *** and I threatened to kick her in the face...I was frustrated, she didn't like it too much, I felt really bad
Sorry baby.Lots of room once the turbo is out, but it's about to get filled again:
The BBX comp wheel kinda dwarfs the stocker. It's not a 4202 or anything, but this is actually a pretty sizable turbo. 58lbs/min.
After a bite, we swung over to MAP and got the turbine housing. THANK YOU Modern Automotive Performance for the QUICK TURNAROUND! These guys do great work.
After a few hours the turbo was back in and we fired up the car. Thank god, no leaks! I put ALL new copper crushwashers and gaskets in, save for the head-manifold, manifold-turbo, and turbo-o2 housing gaskets. Oh, FUN FACT! My stock turbo had no gasket on the compressor outlet, to the comp outlet pipe. Unreal. It didn't leak though, when I tested it. I put one on this time :P
Made a few laps around the block and 24psi on the 100% stock fuel system I'm seeing 11:1 afr up to about 5500, that's as high as I've taken it for now. I'm going to try and turn it down and rev it out, then slowly turn up the boost and try find the limit of the stock fuel system. I have a set of 800cc injectors to go in sometime in the near future, and asked Shane@DB Performance to give me a shout if he has any last-minute cancellations next week. For now, I'll just drive the thing, log it, and start enjoying!
Alright, just went out for the first real test drive. I did a boost leak test right before I left, umm, yea. Bad idea to do that on the turbo inlet hose for some reason on the X...car was smoking so bad I was worried the turbo was blown After about 5 pulls and a few miles it cleared right up The smell of the fresh ceramic coating also threw me off, but things are cool now!
So, take this whole bit with a HUGE grain of salt, there's a LOT of caveots. The blow overlay was done on different roads so it is not a perfect example of my stock turbo setup, I think the low-end torque is over-stated compared to VDR's I've done in the past. But w/e, good enough for now. I did ABSOLUTELY ZERO TUNING and simply turned the boost up bit by bit until I saw AFR start to lean out up top. Solid 11's through the powerband and jumping to 12 at 8000rpm. 27psi peak, tapering to 25psi at 7000rpm. Currently seeing 25psi@3898rpm, so 800rpm loss in spool from the stock turbo. 100% STOCK FUEL SYSTEM!
Still, the car does not really feel aweful. It is a *bit* lazy, but with the stock o2 housing and downpipe on there, this is really NOT an ideal setup. If anyone else were to be modding their car and looking for a jump in power every few months, I'd say ABSOLUTELY do the o2 housing/downpipe first, then turbo later on. At the rate I'm going with this build, I figure I'll have that addressed before too long
I left most of the heat shields and a few bolts easily accessable on the o2 housing to make the job easier when it comes time.
Now, first overlay, remember...grain of salt! No tuning! I was running 15° of timing @7000rpm on the stock turbo, on the BBX I'm only running about 11, LOL! Def needs tuning, she's got a bit left in it!
So yea, 3000-4500rpm really suffered (remember grain of salt) which I fully expected, but 6000+ this thing just keeps going going going! Peak wtq is down only about 15, but peak whp is up around 50! With tuning I'm hoping to see a bit more than that on the current setup, but I have a set of DW800's to go in first.
Overall, I'm SUPER happy with this setup, can't wait to get a few more mods on it and see what it'll do, but moreso just continue to enjoy the car. I'm so impressed with the stock fuel system so far, I imagine I could get more out of it with more timing but idk, will that cause fuel consumption to go up and max out the injectors earlier? I can't seem to log IDC with EvoScan v2.7 so idk where I'm even at numberwise there. I'll play with it a bit more and then get some actual dyno numbers before too long.
THANK YOU CBRD!
After about 5 pulls and a few miles it cleared right up The smell of the fresh ceramic coating also threw me off, but things are cool now!So, take this whole bit with a HUGE grain of salt, there's a LOT of caveots. The blow overlay was done on different roads so it is not a perfect example of my stock turbo setup, I think the low-end torque is over-stated compared to VDR's I've done in the past. But w/e, good enough for now. I did ABSOLUTELY ZERO TUNING and simply turned the boost up bit by bit until I saw AFR start to lean out up top. Solid 11's through the powerband and jumping to 12 at 8000rpm. 27psi peak, tapering to 25psi at 7000rpm. Currently seeing 25psi@3898rpm, so 800rpm loss in spool from the stock turbo. 100% STOCK FUEL SYSTEM!
Still, the car does not really feel aweful. It is a *bit* lazy, but with the stock o2 housing and downpipe on there, this is really NOT an ideal setup. If anyone else were to be modding their car and looking for a jump in power every few months, I'd say ABSOLUTELY do the o2 housing/downpipe first, then turbo later on. At the rate I'm going with this build, I figure I'll have that addressed before too long
I left most of the heat shields and a few bolts easily accessable on the o2 housing to make the job easier when it comes time.Now, first overlay, remember...grain of salt! No tuning! I was running 15° of timing @7000rpm on the stock turbo, on the BBX I'm only running about 11, LOL! Def needs tuning, she's got a bit left in it!
So yea, 3000-4500rpm really suffered (remember grain of salt) which I fully expected, but 6000+ this thing just keeps going going going! Peak wtq is down only about 15, but peak whp is up around 50! With tuning I'm hoping to see a bit more than that on the current setup, but I have a set of DW800's to go in first.
Overall, I'm SUPER happy with this setup, can't wait to get a few more mods on it and see what it'll do, but moreso just continue to enjoy the car. I'm so impressed with the stock fuel system so far, I imagine I could get more out of it with more timing but idk, will that cause fuel consumption to go up and max out the injectors earlier? I can't seem to log IDC with EvoScan v2.7 so idk where I'm even at numberwise there. I'll play with it a bit more and then get some actual dyno numbers before too long.
THANK YOU CBRD!