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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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4th gear is playing pranks

Turn your cars completely off and try to move your shifter into 4th gear without pressing the clutch. Does it fully get into gear? Mine does. Funny thing is when I turn the car on and then try to repeat the same steps, it doesn't even go into 4th gear which is completely normal if you don't press in the clutch. Driving is completely normal though. Is this a common issue? Does ne1 else notice this? I was just sitting in my car with the keys in my lap and just ever so slightly moved the lever down and I almost got a heart attack until I turned it on and no issue lol.

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Am I misunderstanding your question, or is this the first manual car you've ever owned/driven? It sounds like you're wondering whether or not it's normal to be able to put the car in gear, when the engine is not running, without using the clutch.
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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With the car off and the keys removed I can move my lever freely into 4th gear without pressing in the clutch.

When I turn the car on and then try to repeat the same process. It will not go into 4th gear unless I am pressing in the clutch.

Mine is a 2010 GSR

I can't explain it better than that.
I wanna know if ne1 else 2010's 4th gear is accessible with the car turned off and your not pressing in the clutch.

This doesn't happen and any other gear. And I know it is weird.

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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You should be able to freely put any manual vehicle in any gear when the car is off, without using the clutch. As long as there is no binding of the gears. Thus, why I ask if this is the first manual you've ever owned.

As a matter of fact, you don't even "need" the clutch to shift gears. The only thing you need it for is to get started from a stop. (I'm not advocating shifting without a clutch, just saying it's possible)
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Weird only can do it in 4th. What does it mean lol.
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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that you need to return the evo and learn stick on a honda

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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that you need to return the evo and learn stick on a honda

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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OMG is OP serious????
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Yeah this is my first manual car and i get around just fine. Does that make you mad yours wasn't? But... this question didn't really pertain to "how" to drive a stick vehicle. Dyslexia must suck. Anywho, thanks Webman for the response. Appreciate it.

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Webman
You should be able to freely put any manual vehicle in any gear when the car is off, without using the clutch. As long as there is no binding of the gears. Thus, why I ask if this is the first manual you've ever owned.

As a matter of fact, you don't even "need" the clutch to shift gears. The only thing you need it for is to get started from a stop. (I'm not advocating shifting without a clutch, just saying it's possible)
yeah that ^. and you probably should stop trying to put your car in 4th with it on.
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Op.. Congrats on learning to drive stick on an evo for the first time ..
That has never been done before.. I was 12 when I learned to drive stick.. So don't feel to special
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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My first stick car was my Evo, didn't take me too long to get the hang of it.
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tehSteve
Yeah this is my first manual car and i get around just fine. Does that make you mad yours wasn't? But... this question didn't really pertain to "how" to drive a stick vehicle. Dyslexia must suck. Anywho, thanks Webman for the response. Appreciate it.

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It has everything to do with "how" to drive a stick. It's clear that you don't fully understand how a manual transmission works, and that's why I was confused from the beginning. I think you need a little manual transmission schooling. Get a better understanding of how a manual transmission works, and I think you'll be able to answer your own original question without any issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission

The simple answer: The only reason they won't go into gear is because the gears aren't turned to a point where they mesh. Generally movement of the car or pushing the clutch in (allowing gear movement), allows you to force the gears to mesh. The reason you can't put it into gear when it's running is... well... go read the wiki page about a synchronized transmission, and you'll get it.
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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