Motor Trend 2011 STI hatch vs 2010 Evo X SE
that's BS. you don't need to be a pro to get these car's to move faster than that. 0-60 should have been under 5 seconds, and the 1/4 should have been in the 13's. no way in hell you can sit here and say that it should take anybody 6 seconds to get to 60, and 14 seconds to cover 1/4 mile in an STi unless they are horrible drivers.
Again, both se and mr Are within .1 second despite the weight. That is where the unsought weight being less with the bbs and two piece rotors helps. 4.5 to sixty for the SE is quick, and with the MR being tested multiple times at 4.6 to sixty, it is speed on te cheap or speed with some bonus features (moonroof leather seats heated recaros) without sacrificing performance.
Since there is a tenth of a second difference, it all comes down to preference and budget. The SE looks to be a fantastic deal!
Since there is a tenth of a second difference, it all comes down to preference and budget. The SE looks to be a fantastic deal!
also it is more noticeable when you do line changing etc.
But, still in normal or a little more then normal circumstances...
, it is still negligible. There for those, who dont plan to run and race , the heavier car will not do any disadvantage on public road.
Rob
I think it's funny people are attributing it to other things, but let's remember the 2008s were also rated 291HP, and the 2010+ cars have lean spool enabled and make 20+whp more completely stock.
The short answer is the 2010+ Evos make more than 291HP, and make more power than the STI.
The short answer is the 2010+ Evos make more than 291HP, and make more power than the STI.
I think it's funny people are attributing it to other things, but let's remember the 2008s were also rated 291HP, and the 2010+ cars have lean spool enabled and make 20+whp more completely stock.
The short answer is the 2010+ Evos make more than 291HP, and make more power than the STI.
The short answer is the 2010+ Evos make more than 291HP, and make more power than the STI.
Hence they actually weren't slower if they would got the right factory tune in the older versions. The 2010 evos are the proof.
There is no change on or in the engine, besides the proper tune. Which is still leave plenty of room for tweaking just as the older versions ...
Here i come again ... Rob
Last edited by Robevo RS; Feb 4, 2011 at 05:44 AM.
that is the only explanation for this. So other words the revised and fixed factory retune yield more power as it should. That is not a secret the first X's were tuned horribly and just a little tweak on that make them a much power full car.
Hence they actually weren't slower if they would got the right factory tune in the older versions. The 2010 evos are the proof.
There is no change on or in the engine, besides the proper tune. Which is still leave plenty of room for tweaking just as the older versions ...
Here i come again ... Rob
Hence they actually weren't slower if they would got the right factory tune in the older versions. The 2010 evos are the proof.
There is no change on or in the engine, besides the proper tune. Which is still leave plenty of room for tweaking just as the older versions ...
Here i come again ... Rob
The only problem is that it still gets rated "291HP". LOL.
It's deja vu all over again. The IX was rated at 6hp more than the VIII, but in actuality pulled 20-25whp more at the wheels. I was watching one of Clarkson's old videos the other day featuring a number of Japanese cars. Every single one was rated at 276hp. I know, it's the old gentlemen's agreement, but still... <grin>
It's deja vu all over again. The IX was rated at 6hp more than the VIII, but in actuality pulled 20-25whp more at the wheels. I was watching one of Clarkson's old videos the other day featuring a number of Japanese cars. Every single one was rated at 276hp. I know, it's the old gentleman's agreement, but still... <grin>
The "gentlemen's agreement" is there to make sure the regulating agencies in all countries don't get involved with limiting horsepower. They saw it happen with sport bikes in the UK and decided not to report any HP above 300 for cars. Ultimately this is a good thing for us the customer.
The "gentlemen's agreement" is there to make sure the regulating agencies in all countries don't get involved with limiting horsepower. They saw it happen with sport bikes in the UK and decided not to report any HP above 300 for cars. Ultimately this is a good thing for us the customer.
but no one actually holding it... Skylines never was under 300 bhp...
So the Nissan actually never been a gentleman. Not like other companies are gentlemen s either...
"They saw it happen with sport bikes in the UK and decided not to report any HP above 300 for cars."
i dont know what you mean by this, since it is a biggest sale weapon is for a sport cars , to actually tell the numbers specially in the US.
No one is better then the US car makers, they always was a biggest bragger about the hp numbers. They dont say to much about quality etc, but NUMBERS. that is they mainthing, so far.
And the trend continues. If you can't make a car less long or do it right, get more and more hp so you "will be a best".... US car maker philosophy...
And that is how you sell trucks cars etc
http://www.gtr-xs.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uNL4mQt0fs
Last edited by Robevo RS; Feb 6, 2011 at 05:17 AM.