car accelerated with the clutch in?
Still trying to piece together what your car is doing, but based on this last post, if your car is IN GEAR and you let go of the clutch and gas, your car should shudder and die. It is not normal for a car to keep running in first gear with your clutch released and your gas released.
Fittest you got exactly what I was trying to say...
When this happened my car was idling @ 900/1.1k hence maybe the revs kept me crawling.
When I did let the car warm up to the 750rpm... I was still moving, but the car was struggling to stay alive. But it still did not stall.
I'm thinking maybe all the fluids are braking in or the cocktail is just settling in causing this randomness. I did 1MTL 1 MTL-90 and then topped it with .6 or .7 MTL again.
Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30. Who knows what's going on?
Just as a reminder if I brake normally at this issue... I will stall right away. I have also tested the slave with the clutch in and 3k revs in 1st and the car wouldn't move. So that is good. I checked for slips in 5 on highway it all checks out. Also I did the raise clutch in 4th at a standstill and instant stall. So that checks out too.
When this happened my car was idling @ 900/1.1k hence maybe the revs kept me crawling.
When I did let the car warm up to the 750rpm... I was still moving, but the car was struggling to stay alive. But it still did not stall.
I'm thinking maybe all the fluids are braking in or the cocktail is just settling in causing this randomness. I did 1MTL 1 MTL-90 and then topped it with .6 or .7 MTL again.
Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30. Who knows what's going on?
Just as a reminder if I brake normally at this issue... I will stall right away. I have also tested the slave with the clutch in and 3k revs in 1st and the car wouldn't move. So that is good. I checked for slips in 5 on highway it all checks out. Also I did the raise clutch in 4th at a standstill and instant stall. So that checks out too.
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 14, 2011 at 10:54 PM.
Fittest you got exactly what I was trying to say...
When this happened my car was idling @ 900/1.1k hence maybe the revs kept me crawling.
When I did let the car warm up to the 750rpm... I was still moving, but the car was struggling to stay alive. But it still did not stall.
I'm thinking maybe all the fluids are braking in or the cocktail is just settling in causing this randomness. I did 1MTL 1 MTL-90 and then topped it with .6 or .7 MTL again.
Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30. Who knows what's going on?
Just as a reminder if I brake normally at this issue... I will stall right away. I have also tested the slave with the clutch in and 3k revs in 1st and the car wouldn't move. So that is good. I checked for slips in 5 on highway it all checks out. Also I did the raise clutch in 4th at a standstill and instant stall. So that checks out too.
When this happened my car was idling @ 900/1.1k hence maybe the revs kept me crawling.
When I did let the car warm up to the 750rpm... I was still moving, but the car was struggling to stay alive. But it still did not stall.
I'm thinking maybe all the fluids are braking in or the cocktail is just settling in causing this randomness. I did 1MTL 1 MTL-90 and then topped it with .6 or .7 MTL again.
Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30. Who knows what's going on?
Just as a reminder if I brake normally at this issue... I will stall right away. I have also tested the slave with the clutch in and 3k revs in 1st and the car wouldn't move. So that is good. I checked for slips in 5 on highway it all checks out. Also I did the raise clutch in 4th at a standstill and instant stall. So that checks out too.
Go put different viscosity oil in your car and tell me your car doesn't behave differently 
Anyway like I said I already talked to Mitsu.
I just replied to clear things up. Thanks.

Anyway like I said I already talked to Mitsu.
I just replied to clear things up. Thanks.
EDIT: Dont even feel like arguing this point.
Last edited by KX250Fmotoracer; Feb 15, 2011 at 06:39 AM.
I'm not trying to be a smartass. I came simply looking for advice for a question about a problem I never experienced before. I mentioned it all started having an oil change and tranny flush. Instead of flaming me, calling me a n00b, or useless posting, how about something helpful? I get different responses from different people after some research hence I came here to clear things up. I know usually people don't attempt a crawl for a hundred yards, but I did and found out that my vehicle doesn't sputter and die... instead continues moving @ 750/800rpm in first after i completely let off the throttle and clutch. Hence the question.... can this be caused by a flush? This is a concern of mine and I would like to find out what is causing this and if it is normal? People say I am chasing my tail repeating myself over and over, but I do not see any other suggestions that I can look into. I am trying to come up with answers after reasoning, no matter how outrageous some people may think it is. I've already tried testing the clutch and slave and they appear to be working fine. And I also mentioned about my idle needle never dipping below 750 when the issue occurs. Maybe I should reset the MAF or reset the battery? Any suggestions or people willing to go outside and try this crawl thing themselves just out of curiousity? Thanks.
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM.
I don't think anyone will try what you're suggesting they do. It will just stall unless you're rocking some monster big motor muscle car low end torque your car should stall. No lube in the world is going to negate the amount of force that's needed to turn a heavy awd drivetrain.
Perhaps demonstrating to someone in person would be more helpful than posting on a forum about it. I know this has been suggested to you before in other threads. Your problems/observations are bizarre to say the least.
Perhaps demonstrating to someone in person would be more helpful than posting on a forum about it. I know this has been suggested to you before in other threads. Your problems/observations are bizarre to say the least.
Yeah I figured muscle cars can do that after seeing my friends Z06 pull it off. But what about for an X between 3-5 min on a cold start? Or possible from a breaking in period of the cocktail? Revs remain high enough to keep the car alive? Thanks about the bizarreness btw
I like to try unique things and look for answers after unexpected results lol. I'll take a video and post it up, but your just going to see a car moving in a straight line for about 5 minutes without any clutch play or throttle.
I like to try unique things and look for answers after unexpected results lol. I'll take a video and post it up, but your just going to see a car moving in a straight line for about 5 minutes without any clutch play or throttle.
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 15, 2011 at 01:13 PM.
I'm not trying to be a smartass. I came simply looking for advice for a question about a problem I never experienced before. I mentioned it all started having an oil change and tranny flush. Instead of flaming me, calling me a n00b, or useless posting, how about something helpful? I get different responses from different people after some research hence I came here to clear things up. I know usually people don't attempt a crawl for a hundred yards, but I did and found out that my vehicle doesn't sputter and die... instead continues moving @ 750/800rpm in first after i completely let off the throttle and clutch. Hence the question.... can this be caused by a flush? This is a concern of mine and I would like to find out what is causing this and if it is normal? People say I am chasing my tail repeating myself over and over, but I do not see any other suggestions that I can look into. I am trying to come up with answers after reasoning, no matter how outrageous some people may think it is. I've already tried testing the clutch and slave and they appear to be working fine. And I also mentioned about my idle needle never dipping below 750 when the issue occurs. Maybe I should reset the MAF or reset the battery? Any suggestions or people willing to go outside and try this crawl thing themselves just out of curiousity? Thanks.
PLEASE do yourself a favor and dont try to "reset the MAF"
When a fuel injected car is cold IT IDLES HIGH! Ever start an automatic and throw it in gear immediately? It will take off pretty damn fast!
NO oil within reason will make your car have noticeably more power, run differently, make the car idle higher.
Why are you trying to idle around anyway, and why are you worried that its NOT stalling!?
DUDE THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR CAR!
PLEASE do yourself a favor and dont try to "reset the MAF"
When a fuel injected car is cold IT IDLES HIGH! Ever start an automatic and throw it in gear immediately? It will take off pretty damn fast!
NO oil within reason will make your car have noticeably more power, run differently, make the car idle higher.
Why are you trying to idle around anyway, and why are you worried that its NOT stalling!?
PLEASE do yourself a favor and dont try to "reset the MAF"
When a fuel injected car is cold IT IDLES HIGH! Ever start an automatic and throw it in gear immediately? It will take off pretty damn fast!
NO oil within reason will make your car have noticeably more power, run differently, make the car idle higher.
Why are you trying to idle around anyway, and why are you worried that its NOT stalling!?
Zombie Evo methinks.
If I pop my foot off the clutch I will stall. If I press the brake hard enough it will die. I tried crawling up and incline today and it actually struggled and died. But in a straight I keep on moving with the crawl.
If I tap the brake while crawling gently and quick it will slow down and begin crawling again giving a slight pickup speed sensation that was mentioned in the original post. But once again if I press the brake down good like in real traffic the car dies. I noticed also today car crawled @ 900rpm without fluctuating or increasing and just kept crawling for 200 yards until I had to turn around. The other time I attempted it was crawling @ 750 without dipping or rising.
The dealer already turned me away that I got the car from (Bell Mitsubishi)... the next one (which is the closest) won't even look at cars with mods. It just really frustrates me that this all happened after the fluid changes and you guys are telling me they don't seem related.
Blah. When I'm just regular driving and not playing around with the issue, performs flawlessly :/
If I tap the brake while crawling gently and quick it will slow down and begin crawling again giving a slight pickup speed sensation that was mentioned in the original post. But once again if I press the brake down good like in real traffic the car dies. I noticed also today car crawled @ 900rpm without fluctuating or increasing and just kept crawling for 200 yards until I had to turn around. The other time I attempted it was crawling @ 750 without dipping or rising.
Blah. When I'm just regular driving and not playing around with the issue, performs flawlessly :/
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 15, 2011 at 03:00 PM.







