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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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Still trying to piece together what your car is doing, but based on this last post, if your car is IN GEAR and you let go of the clutch and gas, your car should shudder and die. It is not normal for a car to keep running in first gear with your clutch released and your gas released.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Fittest you got exactly what I was trying to say...

When this happened my car was idling @ 900/1.1k hence maybe the revs kept me crawling.
When I did let the car warm up to the 750rpm... I was still moving, but the car was struggling to stay alive. But it still did not stall.

I'm thinking maybe all the fluids are braking in or the cocktail is just settling in causing this randomness. I did 1MTL 1 MTL-90 and then topped it with .6 or .7 MTL again.
Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30. Who knows what's going on?

Just as a reminder if I brake normally at this issue... I will stall right away. I have also tested the slave with the clutch in and 3k revs in 1st and the car wouldn't move. So that is good. I checked for slips in 5 on highway it all checks out. Also I did the raise clutch in 4th at a standstill and instant stall. So that checks out too.

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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:57 PM
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I don't think this is normal.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tehSteve
Fittest you got exactly what I was trying to say...

When this happened my car was idling @ 900/1.1k hence maybe the revs kept me crawling.
When I did let the car warm up to the 750rpm... I was still moving, but the car was struggling to stay alive. But it still did not stall.

I'm thinking maybe all the fluids are braking in or the cocktail is just settling in causing this randomness. I did 1MTL 1 MTL-90 and then topped it with .6 or .7 MTL again.
Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30. Who knows what's going on?

Just as a reminder if I brake normally at this issue... I will stall right away. I have also tested the slave with the clutch in and 3k revs in 1st and the car wouldn't move. So that is good. I checked for slips in 5 on highway it all checks out. Also I did the raise clutch in 4th at a standstill and instant stall. So that checks out too.
IMO you're chasing your tail. When you first start a car it will idle high- this is what you're feeling. Oil will not make the car behave differently.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:27 AM
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Go put different viscosity oil in your car and tell me your car doesn't behave differently

Anyway like I said I already talked to Mitsu.
I just replied to clear things up. Thanks.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:27 AM
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Once again I was running Mitsu diaqueen engine oil before and that was @ 10w-30 (i think)and now I am at mobile 1 5w-30.
Are you sure you had Diaqueen engine oil? Evo's come with Mobil 1 from the factory. 5w-30 from
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tehSteve
Go put different viscosity oil in your car and tell me your car doesn't behave differently

Anyway like I said I already talked to Mitsu.
I just replied to clear things up. Thanks.
EDIT: Dont even feel like arguing this point.

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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you should have bought the MR, manual doesn't seem to be working for you.....
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 11:25 AM
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I'm not trying to be a smartass. I came simply looking for advice for a question about a problem I never experienced before. I mentioned it all started having an oil change and tranny flush. Instead of flaming me, calling me a n00b, or useless posting, how about something helpful? I get different responses from different people after some research hence I came here to clear things up. I know usually people don't attempt a crawl for a hundred yards, but I did and found out that my vehicle doesn't sputter and die... instead continues moving @ 750/800rpm in first after i completely let off the throttle and clutch. Hence the question.... can this be caused by a flush? This is a concern of mine and I would like to find out what is causing this and if it is normal? People say I am chasing my tail repeating myself over and over, but I do not see any other suggestions that I can look into. I am trying to come up with answers after reasoning, no matter how outrageous some people may think it is. I've already tried testing the clutch and slave and they appear to be working fine. And I also mentioned about my idle needle never dipping below 750 when the issue occurs. Maybe I should reset the MAF or reset the battery? Any suggestions or people willing to go outside and try this crawl thing themselves just out of curiousity? Thanks.

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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I don't think anyone will try what you're suggesting they do. It will just stall unless you're rocking some monster big motor muscle car low end torque your car should stall. No lube in the world is going to negate the amount of force that's needed to turn a heavy awd drivetrain.

Perhaps demonstrating to someone in person would be more helpful than posting on a forum about it. I know this has been suggested to you before in other threads. Your problems/observations are bizarre to say the least.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Yeah I figured muscle cars can do that after seeing my friends Z06 pull it off. But what about for an X between 3-5 min on a cold start? Or possible from a breaking in period of the cocktail? Revs remain high enough to keep the car alive? Thanks about the bizarreness btw I like to try unique things and look for answers after unexpected results lol. I'll take a video and post it up, but your just going to see a car moving in a straight line for about 5 minutes without any clutch play or throttle.

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tehSteve
I'm not trying to be a smartass. I came simply looking for advice for a question about a problem I never experienced before. I mentioned it all started having an oil change and tranny flush. Instead of flaming me, calling me a n00b, or useless posting, how about something helpful? I get different responses from different people after some research hence I came here to clear things up. I know usually people don't attempt a crawl for a hundred yards, but I did and found out that my vehicle doesn't sputter and die... instead continues moving @ 750/800rpm in first after i completely let off the throttle and clutch. Hence the question.... can this be caused by a flush? This is a concern of mine and I would like to find out what is causing this and if it is normal? People say I am chasing my tail repeating myself over and over, but I do not see any other suggestions that I can look into. I am trying to come up with answers after reasoning, no matter how outrageous some people may think it is. I've already tried testing the clutch and slave and they appear to be working fine. And I also mentioned about my idle needle never dipping below 750 when the issue occurs. Maybe I should reset the MAF or reset the battery? Any suggestions or people willing to go outside and try this crawl thing themselves just out of curiousity? Thanks.
DUDE THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR CAR!

PLEASE do yourself a favor and dont try to "reset the MAF"

When a fuel injected car is cold IT IDLES HIGH! Ever start an automatic and throw it in gear immediately? It will take off pretty damn fast!

NO oil within reason will make your car have noticeably more power, run differently, make the car idle higher.

Why are you trying to idle around anyway, and why are you worried that its NOT stalling!?
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KX250Fmotoracer
DUDE THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR CAR!

PLEASE do yourself a favor and dont try to "reset the MAF"

When a fuel injected car is cold IT IDLES HIGH! Ever start an automatic and throw it in gear immediately? It will take off pretty damn fast!

NO oil within reason will make your car have noticeably more power, run differently, make the car idle higher.

Why are you trying to idle around anyway, and why are you worried that its NOT stalling!?
Did you read the issue he's having? He SHOULD be worried it's not stalling. The car is in gear and "crawling" with his foot off the clutch, off the gas and the stick is in first gear.

Zombie Evo methinks.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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If I pop my foot off the clutch I will stall. If I press the brake hard enough it will die. I tried crawling up and incline today and it actually struggled and died. But in a straight I keep on moving with the crawl.
If I tap the brake while crawling gently and quick it will slow down and begin crawling again giving a slight pickup speed sensation that was mentioned in the original post. But once again if I press the brake down good like in real traffic the car dies. I noticed also today car crawled @ 900rpm without fluctuating or increasing and just kept crawling for 200 yards until I had to turn around. The other time I attempted it was crawling @ 750 without dipping or rising.

Originally Posted by fittest
did you read the issue he's having? He should be worried it's not stalling. The car is in gear and "crawling" with his foot off the clutch, off the gas and the stick is in first gear.

Zombie evo methinks.
The dealer already turned me away that I got the car from (Bell Mitsubishi)... the next one (which is the closest) won't even look at cars with mods. It just really frustrates me that this all happened after the fluid changes and you guys are telling me they don't seem related.

Blah. When I'm just regular driving and not playing around with the issue, performs flawlessly :/

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