car accelerated with the clutch in?
car accelerated with the clutch in?
Think of this scenario: You gently pull out of your parking spot... no problems nice and smooth. As you slowly roll up to a nearby stop sign... you push the clutch in. No throttle used a good 5 seconds before event happens. Asap you have the clutch to the ground the car gains speed FAST like you are launching @ 3k rpm for 2 seconds then everything goes back to normal. I didn't have time to check the rpm meter (had to hit brakes hard so I wouldn't hit another car) so I am not sure if the revs raised. It didn't sound like the revs raised from what I can recall. But I am 110% sure my foot was nowhere near the throttle.
I put in redline cocktail right before this happened and had a hard stall forgetting to make sure it wasn't in first. (had it done professionally, they left it in gear). Thoughts on the above? Car drive fine how afterward and everything feels more solid too btw.
I put in redline cocktail right before this happened and had a hard stall forgetting to make sure it wasn't in first. (had it done professionally, they left it in gear). Thoughts on the above? Car drive fine how afterward and everything feels more solid too btw.
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 14, 2011 at 01:26 AM.
The clutch was fully down to the ground. I was in first as there was no need to throw it in neutral on the gearbox since it was a quick stop. Never came up off the clutch at all. When pushed in and to the ground... quick acceleration occurred for 2 seconds. Foot was off the gas as I was "coasting" to the stop sign.
I'm going to try a slave test.
Clutch all the way in, Put in First, Clutch still all the way in, Raise revs to 3k and hold.
If I move or the revs die down the slave should be going and disengagement issues
I'm going to try a slave test.
Clutch all the way in, Put in First, Clutch still all the way in, Raise revs to 3k and hold.
If I move or the revs die down the slave should be going and disengagement issues
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 14, 2011 at 09:03 AM.
Update:
After my oil change to mobile 1 5w-30 full synthetic and redline cocktail.... I just noticed right now I can crawl the car around an arena without any throttle applied at all. Before the car would like bog down/sputter/die if I tried doing this. My RPM meter is now smooth as hell and not bouncy at all. Now that I think about it... if I let off the throttle and the revs were still high from starting the car up 30 seconds ago... it only would make sense the car would "keep going" even after gently pressing the brake... and never touching the throttle due to high revs.
Did I just hit the jackpot on motor oil smoothing everything out? I just climbed a slight incline with no gas rofl. The redline feels good and solid btw.
So back to my original topic. It seems that I let off the accelerator applied the brake just enough not to stall the car and as I left off the brake and before pushing the clutch in... 1.5k rpm in revs nudged me forward a nice bit.
Looks liek I should let the revs settle more next time.
After my oil change to mobile 1 5w-30 full synthetic and redline cocktail.... I just noticed right now I can crawl the car around an arena without any throttle applied at all. Before the car would like bog down/sputter/die if I tried doing this. My RPM meter is now smooth as hell and not bouncy at all. Now that I think about it... if I let off the throttle and the revs were still high from starting the car up 30 seconds ago... it only would make sense the car would "keep going" even after gently pressing the brake... and never touching the throttle due to high revs.
Did I just hit the jackpot on motor oil smoothing everything out? I just climbed a slight incline with no gas rofl. The redline feels good and solid btw.
So back to my original topic. It seems that I let off the accelerator applied the brake just enough not to stall the car and as I left off the brake and before pushing the clutch in... 1.5k rpm in revs nudged me forward a nice bit.
Looks liek I should let the revs settle more next time.
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM.
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Bleed your Clutch Slave/Master Cylinder and call it good. If your slave cylinder needs bled (air in line) or is going bad it will slowly engage the clutch even though you have clutch pedal to the floor. Sounds a little strange but its true.
+1. I would let someone ride with you. That doesn't sound normal at all. If you leave you car in 1st it shouldn't be going up an incline without any gas. Something is set not right. Who did the service on the car for you? Was it doing that before you got the fluid changed?
forget it guys, i took it to Mitsu and they said the different fluids used cause different levels of stress on the gears engine hence I am able to keep a crawl up to "a thousand football fields" with completely letting off the clutch in first and never applying throttle. Something that coincidentally I wasn't able to do without the car bogging down and dying before. He also mentioned the high start revs and a stable needle helped keep the car going where I would have thought it would stop after I barely touched the brakes, giving me a sensation of acceleration. /close
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Step 1) Pull out of your parking spot in first gear.
Step 2) Release foot off clutch and throttle completely. Never use brakes.
Step 3) Does the car stall eventually or remain coasting 3-5mph with no throttle or clutch play?
Something stabilized my revs for the car to remain in motion for an unlimited amount of time when performing the above steps. 5w-30 mobile 1 or redline cocktail or a combination of both. When I was running Mitsu oil (diaqueen 10w-30 i think)... the car would struggle and die when the above 3 steps were performed. I can't explain it any clearer! :O Hope you under stand!
Now you are probably wondering how does this relate to the original post?
Well, since I can crawl now for an unlimited amount of time without throttle or clutch play (i wasn't able to before, so naturally I just tapped the brake and waited the push the clutch when car was about to die)
The car slowed down a tiny bit as I barely touched the brake, but then the revs picked back up and I was crawling faster due to high revs from starting the car up 30 seconds earlier.
This is un natural to me, hence OP... then I thought about it.
Step 2) Release foot off clutch and throttle completely. Never use brakes.
Step 3) Does the car stall eventually or remain coasting 3-5mph with no throttle or clutch play?
Something stabilized my revs for the car to remain in motion for an unlimited amount of time when performing the above steps. 5w-30 mobile 1 or redline cocktail or a combination of both. When I was running Mitsu oil (diaqueen 10w-30 i think)... the car would struggle and die when the above 3 steps were performed. I can't explain it any clearer! :O Hope you under stand!
Now you are probably wondering how does this relate to the original post?
Well, since I can crawl now for an unlimited amount of time without throttle or clutch play (i wasn't able to before, so naturally I just tapped the brake and waited the push the clutch when car was about to die)
The car slowed down a tiny bit as I barely touched the brake, but then the revs picked back up and I was crawling faster due to high revs from starting the car up 30 seconds earlier.
This is un natural to me, hence OP... then I thought about it.
Last edited by tehSteve; Feb 14, 2011 at 09:55 PM.







