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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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^With or without resistor? Just curious...I used it with a resistor on my IX but it seems like a lot of guys are going w/o now.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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^With or without resistor? Just curious...I used it with a resistor on my IX but it seems like a lot of guys are going w/o now.
Without. Check this ish out, baby!

Sample (not rpm at bottom) courtesy of that Bryan.

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by linjy2
Best ebc is the hks evc 6. Not cheap either. Mine cost $600ish

For ecu control i would go 3 port.
For stand alone I say the old apexi avc-r beats the crap out of the EVC VI and yes I had an EVC-VI on my X... AVC-R beats it hands down in terms of features... can you say true gear based boost control not the crappy speed based or rpm based choice you get on the EVC, it's not as pretty as the evc though.

That being said, tuned ecu with 3 port is still the best bet unless you need different settings in every gear, and there may even be an ecu patch for that floating around
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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in the X case : OEM ECU or standalone ECU with a 3 port solenoid + Forge WG.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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pierburg solenoid is our preferred solenoid-

and the only actuator that we like- is the Blouch.. and not simply because we work with them... but simply because it works.

cb
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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3 port ftw..
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DrasticK
The best is stock ECU having control over boost through a 3 port. Don't waste your money on ricer boost controller, 600$ will take you a long way in your modding journey elsewhere.

Boost controllers are so 2008 on our cars.
PLEASE explain how boost controllers are now "rice"? It's amazing how this word is still being used like this.

OP, most people will tell you to use a 3 Port for ease of tuning. I had a GReddy Profec and it was a 3 port solenoid before having to switch to 3port, and it just had more features (Boost warning with boost cut, multiple boost settings on the fly for example). Tuners will have easier time tuning the 3 port, instead of trying to remember how to properly tune one of 5 popular EBCs.

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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by boostless
PLEASE explain how boost controllers are now "rice"? It's amazing how this word is still being used like this.

OP, most people will tell you to use a 3 Port for ease of tuning. I had a GReddy Profec and it was a 3 port solenoid before having to switch to 3port, and it just had more features (Boost warning with boost cut, multiple boost settings on the fly for example). Tuners will have easier time tuning the 3 port, instead of trying to remember how to properly tune one of 5 popular EBCs.

While rice was a not the best word he could've used, the fact the 3 port's control is integrated into the ECU mapping is a huge benefit. If you run multiple boost maps (different fuel, valet/safety mode, etc), an EBC is a pain because you have to change the settings. You don't need those extra steps with ECU boost, and an EBC's boost warning and cut is unnecessary with a 3 port using the stock ECU's error correction.

I'd argue against your opinion that tuning ECU boost with good error correction is easier than an EBC. External boost controllers feel very five years ago to me.

His point is driven home on cost vs. performance against a 3 port. We don't have Supras, RX-7s, or other cars with reasonably closed ECUs. $400 will go a long way toward useful hop up parts.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
While rice was a not the best word he could've used, the fact the 3 port's control is integrated into the ECU mapping is a huge benefit. If you run multiple boost maps (different fuel, valet/safety mode, etc), an EBC is a pain because you have to change the settings. You don't need those extra steps with ECU boost, and an EBC's boost warning and cut is unnecessary with a 3 port using the stock ECU's error correction.

I'd argue against your opinion that tuning ECU boost with good error correction is easier than an EBC. External boost controllers feel very five years ago to me.

His point is driven home on cost vs. performance against a 3 port. We don't have Supras, RX-7s, or other cars with reasonably closed ECUs. $400 will go a long way toward useful hop up parts.
+1 on everything Noize said

Originally Posted by CBRD
pierburg solenoid is our preferred solenoid-

and the only actuator that we like- is the Blouch.. and not simply because we work with them... but simply because it works.

cb
+1 on the blouch wga... I've seen countless posts of people having issues with the other one and resolving them by going to the blouch actuator.


The ProfecB Spec II is probably the easiest boost controller in the world to set and from a tuning perspective it does not get any easier... you don't even have to get out of the car to set it like you do with a manual. The dual boost settings are useless though because you need to switch ecu maps....

Tephra mod on the other hand, combined with 3 port and ecu boost..... mash a button and change both boost settings and fuel, timing, mivec, etc etc...

Lets see ANY stand alone boost controller do that.... True, you could use the selector switch to change maps on the tephra mod... but why on earth would you want to do that if you can control everyting via the tephra rom anyway
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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I am running a GrimSpeed 3port BC on my car. It's cool for lower HP cars. I am going to be taken mine off and going back to a MBC. Because I am a little bit over 500 hp. I would say that it would of been awesome on my last set up before I move up to a 2.4. I have only had on my car for couple of months now. My car only goes out on the weekend and sometimes at night. It is to damn hot down here in Florida to drive during the day. That and my a/c is broken.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FL_SilverEvo8
I am running a GrimSpeed 3port BC on my car. It's cool for lower HP cars. I am going to be taken mine off and going back to a MBC. Because I am a little bit over 500 hp. I would say that it would of been awesome on my last set up before I move up to a 2.4. I have only had on my car for couple of months now. My car only goes out on the weekend and sometimes at night. It is to damn hot down here in Florida to drive during the day. That and my a/c is broken.
Please explain why you feel an MBC is better with your setup? If anything I would think you would really want the fine control a properly setup 3 port will give on a higher horsepower build.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by boostless
PLEASE explain how boost controllers are now "rice"? It's amazing how this word is still being used like this.

OP, most people will tell you to use a 3 Port for ease of tuning. I had a GReddy Profec and it was a 3 port solenoid before having to switch to 3port, and it just had more features (Boost warning with boost cut, multiple boost settings on the fly for example). Tuners will have easier time tuning the 3 port, instead of trying to remember how to properly tune one of 5 popular EBCs.
While your profec had overboost warning, two mods etc-

it does not have the sophisticated functions of ecu boost and a 3 port-

on evo 8/9-

you can have gear dependant boost, map switching (two boost settings), RPM dependant boost (VERY IMPORTANT)...

on evo X-

you get throttle based boost- in my opinion one of the GREATEST functions of ecu boost tuning and boost control devised----

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I dealt with Race cars- not street cars- where we had to program the boost for throttle, gear, conditions (wet/dry/etc)...

That allowed me to fully realize the potential and ability of ECU programmed boost-

CB
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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GM 3 port all the time!
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Got my X tuned the other day with a Turbosmart Eboost 2 (EBC) in. It was really bad at first- the system took a long time to work out all the kinks from the default settings. My tuner took that extra time just trying to get it to hold boost steadily through the rpm band, just because of the million of setting modes we had to adjust.

After finally getting everything in place, I made 333awhp on mustang dyno with just a turboback & intake.

I'd highly suggest going GM or Grimspeed 3 port due to the easier boost control through the ECU without this huge hassle. This was just a pain in the a##.
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad_SB
+1 on everything Noize said



+1 on the blouch wga... I've seen countless posts of people having issues with the other one and resolving them by going to the blouch actuator.


The ProfecB Spec II is probably the easiest boost controller in the world to set and from a tuning perspective it does not get any easier... you don't even have to get out of the car to set it like you do with a manual. The dual boost settings are useless though because you need to switch ecu maps....

Tephra mod on the other hand, combined with 3 port and ecu boost..... mash a button and change both boost settings and fuel, timing, mivec, etc etc...

Lets see ANY stand alone boost controller do that.... True, you could use the selector switch to change maps on the tephra mod... but why on earth would you want to do that if you can control everyting via the tephra rom anyway
Question I have a profec b spec two boost controller. Now what can I possibly do to have this car tuned properly. becuase my car idles like **** could it be the actual boost controller itself or a boostleak becasue my car is idling at 10 at idle wtf?
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