A 911 S isn't even in the same class as a GTR. If your comparing... then compare it to the 911 Turbo which sits at 180K.

Stop reading articles about the first 2009 GTR. A 5 year old car. The new ones are tough as a brick **** house. The engine internals can handle up to 700 wheel HP before breaking and the tranny is good to 650 TQ.

I'll gladly smack any GSR with an FP red or EF 3 is a quarter mile run ( on a legal track moderators )

 

A 911 S is in a different class then the M3, which was my original point.

I don't agree that the new 911 S and GTR are in different classes, but I'm not going to argue about it online

 

I don't know if GTR and 911 is in the same class or not no matter in what kind of view.
I just know that the first GTR was intended to be faster than a 911, and it did.
Nissan is still keeping this record.

By the way, I don't think a GSR is capable to hang out with GTR. You can upgrade your turbo and other stuffs, but the GTR can do the same thing and even further.

 

Its all good you're 100% entitled to your opinion. Personally I'm not seeing how a N/A RWD car with 400 HP is even remotely in the same class as TT AWD monster making 550 HP..

 

I know you don't agree, probably because you actually bought one

In all seriousness, the GTR is faster in a straight line, but depending on the track, the new 911 S holds it's own against the GTR, which I think is a better measuring stick for "class" of these types of cars.

Also your numbers are way off. The (less focused then 911 S) 911 Turbo starts at 130,000, a lot closer to the 2014 retail price of a GTR then the 2009. Also the fully loaded 911 Turbo S which includes PDK and every performance option you could want starts at 160.

 

I think it's debatable whether Nissan accomplished it's goals or not but the only interesting thing to me about the GTR was how cheap it was. As it stands in 2014, it's more expensive then a Porsche 911 S. I don't see the point of offering an uglier copy of a 911 at nearly the same price.

 

Don't use the word "uglier". When 2 car's price and performance is so close together, it all go to personal preference.
It is like comparing EVO and STI.

Back to the topic, I think if he want to hang out with GTR. He need to put quite a lot of money. He need to upgrade his car at least 200+horsepower to hang out with with stock gtr which is normally not enough. I know a lot of GTR owner make theirs to 1000+hps because they just have the money~

 

Please learn how to use Goolge and at least visit the Porsche site.. Just built a Turbo with the same mods at a GTR.

Base price: $137,500
Price for Equipment: $11,680
Destination Charge: $950
Total Price:*
$150,130
*Option availability and pricing subject to change. Please consult your local dealer for the most up-to-date information.


Note the price of 150K.. far cry from your imaginary numbers. As far as the Turbo S. Even More so. They START at 160K and you need to add a few features to get what a GTR has. Like I said... your looking at 180K period. I'm not an experienced track driver but I'll gladly welcome you to the Dallas area and bring a regular 911 S and smoke it around any regular sized track here. Sorry not the same class, not even close. Its like comparing a Civic to a Corvette...

Don't get me wrong, I think the Porsches are amazing cars I have a friend with a lightly modded Turbo and he just inches me in a 60 to 130 Vbox run. And I mean literally inches... But after my Cobb upgrades... Good Bye...