Another EVO X vs STI comparison... after 2k miles in my 2011 EVO X MR
All the real rally cars are still 2.0 l.
Wrc cars is basically phantom cars and they have nothing to do with a rally idea. They are basically as far from the rally roots as the grupe b was
The 2.5 sti engines basically not an improvment....
It is a money saving move, besidea thy know the americans would buy it. Based on they own beilives which is as already mentioned... bigger is better.
Lol
And the same time they keep the good one 2.0l for themself.
Ir was obvious it will work for an avage guy, which is a majority of the buyers anyway.
It is a money saving move, besidea thy know the americans would buy it. Based on they own beilives which is as already mentioned... bigger is better.
Lol
And the same time they keep the good one 2.0l for themself.
Ir was obvious it will work for an avage guy, which is a majority of the buyers anyway.
Mainly has to do with them building the car for Grupe-N standards. Can't be over 2.0 liter. They built the car while they were still someone involved in rally. While mitsubishi doesn't participate in rally any more, many people use the car and are killing overseas. It wouldn't have made sense for mitsubishi to invest all that time and money in the 4B11t then drop it a year or two later so they can up the size.
Interesting, never knew that. But to add to that, it just doesn't make sense for mitsubishi to R&D another block (or even the same block) with different displacement. It would take a large sum of money and the return on selling a few thousand evos a year isn't going to cover it imo.
I say they focus on the XI engine and leave the 4b11t as it is. It's proven and works great.
I say they focus on the XI engine and leave the 4b11t as it is. It's proven and works great.
I thought I'd miss my '08 STi but I don't. The Evo is just such a pleasure to drive, I've forgotten how much I loved my STi.
That said, we all owe a bit of gratitude to Subaru for bringing the '02 WRX to the states. Without that move, and massive sales that year none of us would have evos in North America.
That said, we all owe a bit of gratitude to Subaru for bringing the '02 WRX to the states. Without that move, and massive sales that year none of us would have evos in North America.
The 2.5 sti engines basically not an improvment....
It is a money saving move, besidea thy know the americans would buy it. Based on they own beilives which is as already mentioned... bigger is better.
Lol
And the same time they keep the good one 2.0l for themself.
Ir was obvious it will work for an avage guy, which is a majority of the buyers anyway.
It is a money saving move, besidea thy know the americans would buy it. Based on they own beilives which is as already mentioned... bigger is better.
Lol
And the same time they keep the good one 2.0l for themself.
Ir was obvious it will work for an avage guy, which is a majority of the buyers anyway.
While I agree engine size isn't everything you can't honestly tell me there aren't very good advantages to a bigger displacement especially on the street. Sure in rally they can use anti-lag but on the streets the extra low end torque can help alot and up top too. The EVO engines are SUPERIOR, I never said they weren't, I just said a big of extra displacement would have been good.
I see the bigget displacment getting useful when you using a much bigger turbo to help the turbo spooling. That is all.
For tq i like the higher compression build vs bigger displacment idea.
2.0l is a perrfect displacment fot the evo with stock and close size turbos in my opinion.
You dont have to agree or follow it. I am just saying.
With a restrictor i make low end high tq set up in my car with a 2.0 l engine. Beilive me when i say there is negligable differrnce on street.
Ps: my car makes with a mildly tuned( due head damage) 450 ft/lb wheel tq. And starts around 2.700 rpm. But with a restrictor the car dies at 6k. Rpm. And makes 298with whp
So if some one i do drive with tq ... lol
Rob
I thought I'd miss my '08 STi but I don't. The Evo is just such a pleasure to drive, I've forgotten how much I loved my STi.
That said, we all owe a bit of gratitude to Subaru for bringing the '02 WRX to the states. Without that move, and massive sales that year none of us would have evos in North America.
That said, we all owe a bit of gratitude to Subaru for bringing the '02 WRX to the states. Without that move, and massive sales that year none of us would have evos in North America.

original owner who ordered the exact specs i wanted, no wing + short shifter which was a non-standard config.






