Ok, that was a little hard to read. So, you made 750whp on 1000cc injectors?? I'm assuming that is using race gas correct? I can't imagine another way of doing it.

 

You make it sound as if a production car running 11's isn't that amazing. There are very few production cars in the world that run 1/4 mile in 11's in factory trim out of the box. The few that do are typically exotics along the lines of Vipers, Corvettes, Ford GT, Porsche, Lamborghini, Lexus, Ferrari, Saleen, etc.

The 2012 Camaro ZL1 runs like 11.9 and is the only other production pony car to make 11's (stock)...it's still slower than the 2013 GT500.

Yes, it is the exception to the rule, as is the new Camaro ZL1. The fact that a pony car can make 11's stock is still impressive...even if it did take until just recently to make those kind of numbers.

 

In fact i think its totally amazing!! thats my whole point. Just showing what massive amounts of HP it takes a rear wheel drive car to get into the 11's. Where a evo can do it in the 400hp range.

And yes of course the ZL 1 is slower than new Mustang 580 vs 650 odd hp, and that ZL1 is 4000lbs...

Sorry to get so off topic OP. Your original ? is pretty much a firm yes, you wont find a faster car under 40k than a evo

 

I would have to agree with the masses on it being the capablites on the driver. I when the local 1/4 mi. strip and I was 2 to 3 tenths faster, even when we swaped out cars.

 

A little off topic but I like reading about all cars really, one of the first actual answers about the fastest car under 40K

 

Stock for stock the Mustang GT is faster out of the box and costs less than the Evo.

However, that really isn't the whole story. The factory tune on the Evo is garbage and it can easily make more power. The Evo is a better platform for making power but the Mustang is faster in stock trim.

 

I would venture to say that the Mustang could make loads and loads more power than an Evo while being more reliable. Dollar for dollar, you'd probably be better off with a wutstang. As the years pass and Evo's continue to go unimproved by Mistubishi, this trend will probably continue.

I know nothing about the Mustang platform, though, fwiw.

 

If the stock tune is that bad does that mean you think you could get much power just out of tuning it without any mods?

 

There is a considerable amount of power to be had on a tune alone. Since making it breathe easier on both ends is relatively cheap a lot of people do that as well with various intake or exhaust parts.

 

How much you think you could get out of an exhaust system and a tune? Just wondering what kind of a horsepower and 1/4 mile time gain it would make.

 

I've owned 3 different mustangs over the years. Everyone knows they are cheap, fast, and fun. Why do you think you pass 2 of them for every mile that you drive? Cheap and fast! Now, granted, I don't think a $50K mustang is cheap, but neither is a $40K Evo. The reasons I decided to buy an Evo are many - You don't see them hardly ever in Indiana, people always want to know what it is, all wheel drive, 4 door, fun from the factory, relatively simple to modify (once I'm out of warranty), MR so my wife and teenage son could drive it occasionally, simply a great looking car, etc...

I won't buy another real-wheel drive, manual shift vehicle until my kids are out of the house. I do have a 4x4 F-150 now so I could garage the sports car, but my son drives it. I hated seeing winters when I had a mustang (and I didn't have the truck), now I love it! I enjoy flappy paddle shifting, but I also enjoy eating a snack in the car through the city while driving in automatic mode. It's the best of all worlds. I'm not sure how many other fast vehicles under $40k have that option, but I'm certain I could make a pretty good guess.

With all of that said, I do LOVE mustangs! Who wouldn't? they are cheap and fast.

 

I hate Mustangs. A big reason is because I grew up with Z28s, and saw 5.0 H.O. taillights from a friend's car too many times. 20 years later, even though I don't like modern Camaros at all, I still harbor a dislike toward Mustangs, but the reasons have changed.

While I do admit that Coyote motor is completely awesome in output, the Mustangs still drive and feel heavier than they are. Althought the Evo X is just as heavy, it handles substantially better and does a much nicer job of managing its weight.

Solid axle, poor handling feel, an exhaust note I don't like, and stying (last two are just subjective opinions) are reasons I'd never pay money for one. The next generation is supposed to be even better: IRS, less weight, etc. But they're going to have to do a miracle in the styling and driving feel departments to ever get my interest.

If I needed a RWD V8 American car, make mine a nice used C5 Z06. Way more bang for the buck, lighter weight, faster, and infinitely better handling than a Rustang.

 

Buddy of mine had a C5 Z06, I drove it and needed binoculars to see where the hood ended. I know they have a huge history behind the styling, but DAMN, shorten that nose.

 

Another thing I was wondering about is does anybody know what it would take and about how much it would cost to make an Evo run about a 12 or high 11's? I have a friend that just got a 98 SS Camaro that's supposed to run about a 12.06 and he's one of those close minded "a foreign 4 cylinder can never compete with an American V8" people. He says if you do the same thing to both the V8 will always win blah blah blah. I wanna be ble to go to the track with an Evo and spank him with a car that I built and didn't buy built lol.

 

Not sure with the X, yet..., but I know a few local peeps that have 8s and 9s that did it with bolt-ons, FP Red, and some E85.