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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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Let the Navis clutch themselves.
Clipboard, dammit. Not my self.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Frickin crazy.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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Nasty crash
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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its amazing being a firefighter seeing crashes like this and knowing with out that cage he is getting cut out of that car. He did land up right though.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Nasty crash for sure. I used to race that track pretty frequently and saw many similar crashes mainly because people carry to much speed on the back straight and jump hard on the brakes in turn 9 while prepping for turn 10. Coming out of that straight in my 400whp 240 I used to carry speeds upward of 120. Turn 10 would bring you back down into 2nd gear. If you are going to race, have a cage.

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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Ouch!
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnr352
Hmmm, well yes, keep telling yourself that. We are all taught what to do in competition school but reality can get in the way. The point is, and I'm speaking from, unfortunately, experience, and as a driver, at the moment before impact you are doing what you can to avoid or minimize the crash. You are not letting go the steering wheel and grabbing your chest, helmet or harness straps and getting prepared for the impact. I'm working to save it until the very end.

Again, this is why we have window and internal nets. The forces of a crash, at speed, are very strong, and you'll be lucky if you can hold on to the wheel, much less grab your harness or anything else after impact. If your going slowly enough or the hit is light enough that you can control your arms, well, I vote for keeping your hands on the wheel and try to gain control of the car. Let the Navis clutch themselves.
Of course, and that (hugging yourself) is what should be done. There are situations where there is enough time - i.e. you lose your brakes going into T1 and find yourself going straight into a tire wall, and there are situations when there is not enough time. You should not be trying to hang onto the wheel - the force of the impact and your tense arms "bolted" to something like the steering wheel will cause the weakest link to break (your wrists).

Originally Posted by Iowa999
I was taught to cross my arms, hugging the clipboard to my chest. The co-driver's clip-board is one the few loose objects and getting a corner of it in the face would hurt. A lot.

The other advice was to try to not tense up. Stay loose and floppy (other than your crossed arms). Much less likely to pull a muscle; tensing up is not going to help in any way.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamdrivedrift
Of course, and that (hugging yourself) is what should be done. There are situations where there is enough time .

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OK, uncle, though I have not personally encountered situations where there is enough time to decide where my hands should go while preparing for a crash, if not on the steering wheel. Further, I haven't encountered circumstances wherein letting go of the wheel and assuming some sort of a crash position was preferable over trying to regain control of the car. I suppose it could occur.

Correct, don't keep your wrists or arms rigid. Ever. We are taught that early on, whether simply driving the car on track (soft hands) or in a crash situation.

Finally, if you and I are on the track at the same time and you lose control and are heading right at me at great speed - please! don't let go of the steering wheel, having given up hope of controlling your race car...
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 05:55 AM
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For being in the driver's seat, I would think not giving up on trying to get control is necessary. I mean, even if you're going to wreck, try to do it as gracefully as possible.
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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Great advise, thanks

Originally Posted by Johnr352
Correct. You NEVER stop and get out of your car on the track. Ever. And, if you are involved in an incident, unless you are on fire, you stay in your car. Trust me, you want to (and some do it), if nothing else to validate to yourself you are ok but, if your car happens to be on track you are going to make things worse.

Corner workers radio it in, flag the track, bring in the cars and send out the wrecker and ambulance. When they tell you, you get out.
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