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Question about the value of a 2008 Evo with 430whp??

Old Jan 30, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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Question about the value of a 2008 Evo with 430whp??

I am selling an M6 BMW and don't know much about Evo's. I have a guy with an '08 Evo GSR SSS. It's black with 44,000 miles and the following mods:

FP red turbo
intake pipe
3.5" intercooler
manual boost controller
AEM boost control and a/f meter
Tomei downpipe
Borla Catback
266 cam
ACT step 3 clutch
HKS blowoff valve
SSS package

This is bascially copy and pasted from him, so sorry for the vagueness of some of the parts...Any help is appreciated! Not looking for an exact number of course. Just a ballpark of what I could sell this thing for in a reasonable amount of time and in the mean time have fun with it!
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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$29k or so... would be my guess.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oufan2929
I am selling an M6 BMW and don't know much about Evo's. I have a guy with an '08 Evo GSR SSS. It's black with 44,000 miles and the following mods:

FP red turbo
intake pipe
3.5" intercooler
manual boost controller
AEM boost control and a/f meter
Tomei downpipe
Borla Catback
266 cam
ACT step 3 clutch
HKS blowoff valve
SSS package

This is bascially copy and pasted from him, so sorry for the vagueness of some of the parts...Any help is appreciated! Not looking for an exact number of course. Just a ballpark of what I could sell this thing for in a reasonable amount of time and in the mean time have fun with it!
Not trying to knock the owner of the evo but im gonna guess it was beaten on and not taken care of. You can generally get a sence of how it was taken care of with the type/brand name of mods. The fact he went with hks bov, manual boost controller and aem boost controller (im assuming aem true boost), he didnt choose his mods carefully.

That being said a evo making that much power on stock engine is most likely going to have issues down the road. Add in the fact it has mods on there they are shady in my opinion, i wouldnt offer more then 20k for it. But thats just me, some may agree with me, some may 100% disagree.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Snakes709
Not trying to knock the owner of the evo but im gonna guess it was beaten on and not taken care of. You can generally get a sence of how it was taken care of with the type/brand name of mods. The fact he went with hks bov, manual boost controller and aem boost controller (im assuming aem true boost), he didnt choose his mods carefully.

That being said a evo making that much power on stock engine is most likely going to have issues down the road. Add in the fact it has mods on there they are shady in my opinion, i wouldnt offer more then 20k for it. But thats just me, some may agree with me, some may 100% disagree.
Dude I couldn't agree more. I would think someone who took time/money modifying their Evo would be happy to outline the mods and tunes. For instance, I'm collecting parts for a safe(ish) upgrade path from well-known vendors and a well-known tuner. I can outline maintenance also. But then again, I'm not selling my X....ever.

Also, 430whp? Dyno chart? What's the wtq? Doesn't mention aftermarket internals so I'd think really hard about this. If you're dead set on the buy then take it to Cobb or another reliable tuner for diagnostics before purchase.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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sell your m6 and buy exactly what you want and how you want it
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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29k seems high for an 08.. it's kind of weird to think but that car's 5 years old now
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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I wouldn't do it. But I would have a hard time buying any modded car.
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Snakes709
Not trying to knock the owner of the evo but im gonna guess it was beaten on and not taken care of. You can generally get a sence of how it was taken care of with the type/brand name of mods. The fact he went with hks bov, manual boost controller and aem boost controller (im assuming aem true boost), he didnt choose his mods carefully.

That being said a evo making that much power on stock engine is most likely going to have issues down the road. Add in the fact it has mods on there they are shady in my opinion, i wouldnt offer more then 20k for it. But thats just me, some may agree with me, some may 100% disagree.

I agree 100%. Personally, mods do not add value to any used car in my opinion. I would still go by kbb and the used market value.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Snakes709
Not trying to knock the owner of the evo but im gonna guess it was beaten on and not taken care of. You can generally get a sence of how it was taken care of with the type/brand name of mods. The fact he went with hks bov, manual boost controller and aem boost controller (im assuming aem true boost), he didnt choose his mods carefully.

That being said a evo making that much power on stock engine is most likely going to have issues down the road. Add in the fact it has mods on there they are shady in my opinion, i wouldnt offer more then 20k for it. But thats just me, some may agree with me, some may 100% disagree.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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The age old rule of Jap tuned cars is you generally don't get back the money you put in on mods... So try to price out a car based on it's stock book value. On the other hand if it has thousands of dollars worth of high quality mods then it's a different story.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Leezon
The age old rule of Jap tuned cars is you generally don't get back the money you put in on mods... So try to price out a car based on it's stock book value. On the other hand if it has thousands of dollars worth of high quality mods then it's a different story.
It doesn't matter if it has high quality mods like HKS, ARC, or Jun, or lower quality stuff like Megan Racing, BC, or Tsudo, all it means is the owner has deep pockets or a good line of credit. There are too many variables to consider, from a tune, to abuse, to maintenance, or lack there of.

A car with mods should be worth less than a car that is stock. This is the rule car dealers follow by and so should you when looking at buying a vehicle, especially if it has that ricer excuse for a BOV.

That HKS SSQV should automatically knock $5k off the asking price.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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Big questions.....

Who tuned it? What's the compression on it? Leak down test come out looking good? What do the datalogs of it running currently look like?

Secondary questions....

Was the timing belt changed? Stock bottom end I'm assuming, might be good to ask if he started collecting parts for a bottom end that might go with the sale. Does the Tcase look good? Diff pins holding up well?

Hope that helps redefine some better answers from them.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Evo X's don't have timing belts, nor would it be easy to check the diff pins...
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBlade
Big questions.....

Who tuned it? What's the compression on it? Leak down test come out looking good? What do the datalogs of it running currently look like?

Secondary questions....

Was the timing belt changed? Stock bottom end I'm assuming, might be good to ask if he started collecting parts for a bottom end that might go with the sale. Does the Tcase look good? Diff pins holding up well?

Hope that helps redefine some better answers from them.
Cmon Jason! X's dont have belts!
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AWDTerror
Evo X's don't have timing belts, ..
I'm referring to the timing chain, and their known issues.

As for the diff pins, it's easy to ask: "Have you tracked it or launched it? When was your last fluid change?"

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