Heat wrapping
So I found a shop that said they could cermic coat the manifold for $100. But if I cermic coat it, do I still need to worry about plastic melting under the hood? Also, my car is red and I want the manifold to visually "pop" under the hood. Any suggestions on what color to coat it?
On a side note, if anyone is interested in purchasing DEI titanium heat wrap and tie downs let me know. LOL!
On a side note, if anyone is interested in purchasing DEI titanium heat wrap and tie downs let me know. LOL!
Make sure you get it coated with a quality 2000F ceramic, the 1600F stuff with flake/burn off.
http://www.spcoating.com/Ceramic.html
Titanium or black colors are going to hold up the best. The silver will flake off the manifold, as will any of the color coatings (blue, orange, etc.).
http://www.spcoating.com/Ceramic.html
Titanium or black colors are going to hold up the best. The silver will flake off the manifold, as will any of the color coatings (blue, orange, etc.).
You should probably look into a firewall heatshield like MAP used to make and also a CAS shield. I also ran a custom valve cover heatshield when I had a tubular.
Last edited by Kracka; Mar 6, 2013 at 09:34 AM.
Minus the whole, melting wires near the firewall, melting plastic valve covers (+10 Evo X), and melting sensors and connectors near the valve cover.
Apart from the ceramic coating is there any other safety measure I need to take to make sure I dont melt anything under the hood?
Im trying to avoid a $300 aftermarket heat shield.
Im trying to avoid a $300 aftermarket heat shield.
Last edited by FearDavid0586; Mar 6, 2013 at 09:42 AM.
Then you shouldn't of bought the manifold. Don't half-*** this, unless you like your car burning to the ground.
Nobodies half assing anything. Im trying to explore other options. If you don't have any suggestions or constructive information to provide, then why say anything? Do you have an after market manifold? What precautions are you taking? Thats all I'm tyring to find out. If you don't then why say anything at all?
I have said plenty constructive things. If your questioning spending the money on buying a heat shield after spending 500+ on a mani and then 100 on coating, then you are attempting to half *** it.
Mine is a full race ceramic coated with heat wrap that was dipped in witchcraft and magic with the factory heat shield over it.
There are plenty of cars that have melted a lot of things, and they asked the same questions you are now. Either do it right the first time or you're going to spend a lot of time replacing a lot of melted bits. Personally, I spent the money now to avoid spending a lot of money in the future and a lot of potential downtime like a melted firewall wiring harness, and let me tell you, it is neither easy nor cheap to replace one.
Mine is a full race ceramic coated with heat wrap that was dipped in witchcraft and magic with the factory heat shield over it.
There are plenty of cars that have melted a lot of things, and they asked the same questions you are now. Either do it right the first time or you're going to spend a lot of time replacing a lot of melted bits. Personally, I spent the money now to avoid spending a lot of money in the future and a lot of potential downtime like a melted firewall wiring harness, and let me tell you, it is neither easy nor cheap to replace one.
Last edited by AWDTerror; Mar 6, 2013 at 10:59 AM.
If you don't want the added hassle associated with running a tubular manifold then you'd probably be better off getting the stock cast manifold ported. I personally went from stock, to stock ported, to tubular, then back to stock ported. The main reason I switched back was long-term reliability/durability and heat management.
See, thats the kind of response I was hoping for. But telling me I'm half assing something for asking questions I feel is unwarranted. I'm not looking to argue, just looking for facts.
Anyway, I called ETS and they said the ceramic coating alone will be sufficient. AWDterror, are you worried the heat wrap could cause rust? Or is that why you coated it with the other things you described? Are you runnning stock
turbo?
Parts installed:
ETS intake
ETS V2 Extreme Cat back
ETS Test Pipe
ETS intercooler
ETS lower and upper intercooler piping
Being installed on March 16th
ETS Downpipe
ETS Exhaust Manifold
March 19th
Grimmspeed 3 port being installed and Tune by Topspeed Motorsports in Alpharetta Georgia
Hoping for 350+WHP
Anyway, I called ETS and they said the ceramic coating alone will be sufficient. AWDterror, are you worried the heat wrap could cause rust? Or is that why you coated it with the other things you described? Are you runnning stock
turbo?
Parts installed:
ETS intake
ETS V2 Extreme Cat back
ETS Test Pipe
ETS intercooler
ETS lower and upper intercooler piping
Being installed on March 16th
ETS Downpipe
ETS Exhaust Manifold
March 19th
Grimmspeed 3 port being installed and Tune by Topspeed Motorsports in Alpharetta Georgia
Hoping for 350+WHP
Sounds like you have your plan in place.
Please give this thread a read and take the necessary precautions: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...atch-fire.html
If you can, source a used MAP firewall heatshield, or find a shop currently making one (Speed Circuit?), and get yourself a CAS shield.
http://www.speedcircuit.com/index.ph...ncer-cz4a.html
http://www.maperformance.com/map-cam...l#.UTecZobwlvQ
Please give this thread a read and take the necessary precautions: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...atch-fire.html
If you can, source a used MAP firewall heatshield, or find a shop currently making one (Speed Circuit?), and get yourself a CAS shield.
http://www.speedcircuit.com/index.ph...ncer-cz4a.html
http://www.maperformance.com/map-cam...l#.UTecZobwlvQ
Oh yes I read all of that thread, sure makes you nervous. Thank you so much for the links to the cam sensor shield and firewall shield, these are perfect. Im going to check with my local shop and see if they could fabricate these and save some $$$$. If not, then I will definitely buy them. Also, Im wondering if I could just use the titanium heat wrap I have to cover the firewall.
There wouldn't be anyway to stick the wrap to the firewall, although you could sell it and buy DEI adhesive backed stuff
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...s/reflect-cool
It works really well, I use it to protect stuff near my AEM downpipe not covered by the factory heat shields.
As far as the coating on the wrap, my manifold was prepared by a buddy who runs a dirt track car. I'm pretty sure it's a ceramic paint that was used. I run a stock turbo and I'm not concerned about rust with the way it's prep'd.
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...s/reflect-cool
It works really well, I use it to protect stuff near my AEM downpipe not covered by the factory heat shields.
As far as the coating on the wrap, my manifold was prepared by a buddy who runs a dirt track car. I'm pretty sure it's a ceramic paint that was used. I run a stock turbo and I'm not concerned about rust with the way it's prep'd.
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