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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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I can say for a fact what the retune actually does. I have worked for mitsu for over 10 yrs. This retune will lower torque at lower RPM. It will smooth out your idle. Overall it will improve the driving experience of your evo.

Also as far as knowing if your car has been retuned. We can tell if it comes in with an aftermarket tune. Trust me I have tried helping several customers who did not heed my warning to be sure the car had a stock tune before coming in with a drivability concern. Once the software info was transmitted to tech line they come back with saying "vehicle has had pcm reflashed with a non factory tune, no warranty" So if you do have an issue with drivability or anything that will include a hook up to the scan tool be sure it's not modified.

As far as the clutch master cylinder replacement I would have it done it has been noted that some may fail I have performed over 25 in my dealership so far none have had any complaints everyone seems happy on the follow up call, even those with performance clutches. The original one was found to be poorly designed. The new design also allows more smooth operation of the clutch engagement.

Honestly both are worthwhile recalls.

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BaD2RaSS
Also as far as knowing if your car has been retuned. We can tell if it comes in with an aftermarket tune. Trust me I have tried helping several customers who did not heed my warning to be sure the car had a stock tune before coming in with a drivability concern. Once the software info was transmitted to tech line they come back with saying "vehicle has had pcm reflashed with a non factory tune, no warranty" So if you do have an issue with drivability or anything that will include a hook up to the scan tool be sure it's not modified.


Honestly both are worthwhile recalls.
This isn't what people are concerned about regarding the flash - nothing new about going in there with a tune on your car and techs being able to easily figure it out. What many people are worried about is a more user-friendly flash counter being included with the new flash so if one were to go in without any tune, the techs could determine if/how many times the car had been flashed or tuned in the past.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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This isn't what people are concerned about regarding the flash - nothing new about going in there with a tune on your car and techs being able to easily figure it out. What many people are worried about is a more user-friendly flash counter being included with the new flash so if one were to go in without any tune, the techs could determine if/how many times the car had been flashed or tuned in the past.
If I'm understanding what you are saying or asking. Yes the tune is as I stated more user friendly. And yes we have always been able to tell how many times the car has been reflashed even on the evo 8 and 9.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:35 PM
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If I'm understanding what you are saying or asking. Yes the tune is as I stated more user friendly. And yes we have always been able to tell how many times the car has been reflashed even on the evo 8 and 9.
I meant the flash makes it more user friendly for the tech to determine if/how many times the ECU has been flashed. There's been a lot of debate about a counter in the stock ECU and it seems like the general consensus was that there wasn't exactly an easy and standard way for anyone to discern if the car had a previous tune/been flashed with AP or such using MUT.

Many are now suggesting that the torque flash also installs a flash counter that can be more easily read.

Ie, I could have an AP and uninstall it before bringing it to the dealer and currently there wouldn't be anything showing up during a routine check, but with the new flash, something like that would pop up as a standard readout.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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I meant the flash makes it more user friendly for the tech to determine if/how many times the ECU has been flashed. There's been a lot of debate about a counter in the stock ECU and it seems like the general consensus was that there wasn't exactly an easy and standard way for anyone to discern if the car had a previous tune/been flashed with AP or such using MUT.

Many are now suggesting that the torque flash also installs a flash counter that can be more easily read.

Ie, I could have an AP and uninstall it before bringing it to the dealer and currently there wouldn't be anything showing up during a routine check, but with the new flash, something like that would pop up as a standard readout.
Ah gotcha. No we as the dealer cannot tell but once the flash file number and data that mits requests before authorizing any repair over $500. on any turbo model. They can tell how many times and whether or not the current tune is a factory tune or not. Always have been able to tell.
So let's say your evo has had two possible reflashes covered by tsb or other known possibilities. but shows to tech support at mits corporate that it has had lets say six reflashes it will throw some major red flags.
I had an MR in the shop 3 weeks ago with transmission failure, trying the warranty thing. The car was obviously put back to stock, not that I mentioned that needed the work. however once the data was transmitted from the ecu and tcu warranty was declined on the vehicle due to 25 plus reflashes. errrr not good.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BaD2RaSS
I can say for a fact what the retune actually does. I have worked for mitsu for over 10 yrs. This retune will lower torque at lower RPM. It will smooth out your idle. Overall it will improve the driving experience of your evo.

Also as far as knowing if your car has been retuned. We can tell if it comes in with an aftermarket tune. Trust me I have tried helping several customers who did not heed my warning to be sure the car had a stock tune before coming in with a drivability concern. Once the software info was transmitted to tech line they come back with saying "vehicle has had pcm reflashed with a non factory tune, no warranty" So if you do have an issue with drivability or anything that will include a hook up to the scan tool be sure it's not modified.

As far as the clutch master cylinder replacement I would have it done it has been noted that some may fail I have performed over 25 in my dealership so far none have had any complaints everyone seems happy on the follow up call, even those with performance clutches. The original one was found to be poorly designed. The new design also allows more smooth operation of the clutch engagement.

Honestly both are worthwhile recalls.
+1 I just don't want my car to become slower with the flash
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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+1 I just don't want my car to become slower with the flash

Dang namit! I brought my car in for humming noises just to be sure it is just the damn tires and they told me about the recall.

I said yes then I go to the forum and find this thread.

Has the question above been answered? Oh man, I don't know what to expect. I can pick up my car at any time today but I won't have time to pick up until tomorrow.

I am nervous now. But then again, I have a stock 2014 Evo GSR so I might be ok.
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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So using a cobb AP, uninstalling the MAP and then re-installing after the recalls are performed should be okay?

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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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So using a cobb AP, uninstalling the MAP and then re-installing after the recalls are performed should be okay?
Yes. However be aware that some dealers claim that they can tell that the car was tuned/ecu flashed.
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fenixz
Dang namit! I brought my car in for humming noises just to be sure it is just the damn tires and they told me about the recall.

I said yes then I go to the forum and find this thread.

Has the question above been answered? Oh man, I don't know what to expect. I can pick up my car at any time today but I won't have time to pick up until tomorrow.

I am nervous now. But then again, I have a stock 2014 Evo GSR so I might be ok.
Don't worry, man. I'm sure it'll be just fine. Mine is.
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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I have a modded 12 gsr and i am going to take it in this week for the two recalls. Ill let yall know how it works out. Im going to use my cobb ap and unisntall it prior to and reinstall my tune map afterwards. Worst case scenario i will have to get a retune by my local shop specops..and no complaints there. So win win either way....well minus the the cost but w/e
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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I got the recall done on my stock 2014 GSR two weeks ago. All the tech guys at the dealer told me this does not reduce torque in any way. Performance wise, I have noticed no difference at all. Car feels just as fast as it was.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by evoul18
I have a modded 12 gsr and i am going to take it in this week for the two recalls. Ill let yall know how it works out. Im going to use my cobb ap and unisntall it prior to and reinstall my tune map afterwards. Worst case scenario i will have to get a retune by my local shop specops..and no complaints there. So win win either way....well minus the the cost but w/e
So I took my car into to get the two recalls done and everything seems fine. The clutch engages ALOT quicker and the clutch pedal is very very springy from what it was before the recall fix, still getting use to that. Although shifting feels notchier than usual...not sure what thats all about. Anyone have that issue? It's mostly smooth shifting..but definitely not like butter. Anyway, I reinstalled the tune after the installation, and that seemed to have worked well, although the dealer didn't plug my defi guages back in so it took me a minute to figure out what the dealer messed up. I still do not trust the dealer at all.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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[QUOTE=evoul18;11159072]So I took my car into to get the two recalls done and everything seems fine. The clutch engages ALOT quicker and the clutch pedal is very very springy from what it was before the recall fix, still getting use to that. Although shifting feels notchier than usual...not sure what thats all about. Anyone have that issue? It's mostly smooth shifting..but definitely not like butter. Anyway, I reinstalled the tune after the installation, and that seemed to have worked well, although the dealer didn't plug my defi guages back in so it took me a minute to figure out what the dealer messed up. I still do not trust the dealer at all.[/QUOTE

Disregard everything I said. Last night and this morning, the shifter would not engage in any gear, finally after shutting the car off and back on in 1st I could manage to drive the car....shifting was horribly notchy, and the clutch falls to the floor and engages almost right near the bottom...really annoying..this morning was this situation but way worse, drove to the dealership, cussed them out, so now they are "fixing" it. It drove just fine before they touched it. So that's that. I'm posting this for other's awareness in case this happens to you.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 08:25 AM
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[QUOTE=evoul18;11159539]
Originally Posted by evoul18
So I took my car into to get the two recalls done and everything seems fine. The clutch engages ALOT quicker and the clutch pedal is very very springy from what it was before the recall fix, still getting use to that. Although shifting feels notchier than usual...not sure what thats all about. Anyone have that issue? It's mostly smooth shifting..but definitely not like butter. Anyway, I reinstalled the tune after the installation, and that seemed to have worked well, although the dealer didn't plug my defi guages back in so it took me a minute to figure out what the dealer messed up. I still do not trust the dealer at all.[/QUOTE

Disregard everything I said. Last night and this morning, the shifter would not engage in any gear, finally after shutting the car off and back on in 1st I could manage to drive the car....shifting was horribly notchy, and the clutch falls to the floor and engages almost right near the bottom...really annoying..this morning was this situation but way worse, drove to the dealership, cussed them out, so now they are "fixing" it. It drove just fine before they touched it. So that's that. I'm posting this for other's awareness in case this happens to you.
Sounds like they didn't bleed the lines after replacing the clutch master cylinder. Just about everyone who has had that done had to go back and make them fix it it seems like.
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